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More accurate/specific geological Material types

Content Addition · Articles & templates · Created by illumiinae
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What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

  The current Material article types available to represent geological materials are somewhat confusing and don't accurately delineate things in the way I believe they're trying to.   Currently, the options are Metal, Ore/mineral, and Stone. I believe metal is fine, but ore and stone are not really geological terms, and ores and minerals are quite different and I do not believe they should be lumped together.   Minerals have one chemical composition, meanwhile ores are rocks or sediments that contain a valuable mineral (usually a metal) that can be profitably mined. I understand that ore in this sense may be in reference to the mineral metal inside the rock or sediment, but in that case I don't see the need to lump it in with minerals, since the Metal type already exists, so I think Mineral should be a type by itself since it is geologically distinct.   I also believe Stone should be renamed Rock because rock is an actual geological term meaning a composite of multiple minerals, which that I believe was the intention for the Stone type. It would make sense to lump Ore in here with Rock, if it is not lumped in with Metal.  

How does this feature request address the current situation?

  My geologist friend might stop having a conniption if this is remedied. Geologists everywhere can be protected from conniptions if we act swiftly.   For the low cost of changing the phrasing of this one article type, you can prevent geologists everywhere from experiencing intense psychological distress. Will you be an angel for a helpless geologist? Every day innocent geologists are ignored, neglected, and driven into conniptions. And they are crying out for help.  

The Team's Response

UPDATE This has been implemented - it will be deployed today or tomorrow.   Hey there beans!   I will not remove anything existing (or rename it but we can add:
  • Rock
  • Rock'n'Roll
  • Rock, Sedimentary,
  • Rock, Metamorphic
  • Rock, Igneous
  • Mineral
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    Current score

    82/300 Votes · +16310 points

    Votes Cast

    • +100

      by AurerianOverseer
      on 2022-09-21 17:33

    • +100

      by jake-the-otter12
      on 2022-09-20 18:50

    • +300

      by Nimsy
      on 2022-09-20 06:17

    • +300

      by A Sneaky Velociraptor
      on 2022-09-20 04:56

    • +300

      by DaisyChick
      on 2022-09-19 21:20

    • +100

      by Alishahr
      on 2022-09-19 13:41

    • +1

      by Masha Medov
      on 2022-09-19 09:57

    • +300

      by Mournblade94
      on 2022-09-18 22:21
      This is something that has annoyed me for a long time. I am a Biologist and Chemist but this still makes me cringe.

    • +300

      by A Cute Dwarf
      on 2022-09-18 11:13

    • +300

      by Baalon
      on 2022-09-17 01:57

    • +300

      by ZenithTheReborn
      on 2022-09-17 01:35

    • +100

      by Thinkingtoast
      on 2022-09-15 21:02

    • +300

      by Jontaro
      on 2022-09-15 15:48

    • +100

      by voidbreath
      on 2022-09-14 22:12

    • +300

      by namako
      on 2022-09-14 21:05
      I am stealing A Thundering Mimic's response, because honestly, same. "No to removing stone, yes to adding more geologically friendly suggestions"

    • +1

      by Kable13
      on 2022-09-14 01:44

    • +300

      by Tiberius Fursten
      on 2022-09-13 22:34

    • +1

      by HisMessengerDAB
      on 2022-09-13 14:40

    • +300

      by AlmostOrdinary
      on 2022-09-13 06:53

    • +300

      by chewbroccoli
      on 2022-09-13 06:01

    • +300

      by Careen Ligh
      on 2022-09-12 17:24

    • +300

      by A Fierce Goblin
      on 2022-09-12 14:29

    • +100

      by A Thundering Mimic
      on 2022-09-11 15:10
      No to removing stone, yes to adding more geologically friendly suggestions. :)

    • +100

      by Farseeker
      on 2022-09-11 14:37

    • +100

      by SirFibbles
      on 2022-09-10 14:41

    • +300

      by JoellaKay
      on 2022-09-10 04:22

    • +100

      by c0mlink
      on 2022-09-10 03:57

    • +300

      by Tatortotzke
      on 2022-09-10 03:19

    • +300

      by A Uncontrollable Dragon
      on 2022-09-09 19:13

    • +300

      by DMFW
      on 2022-09-09 10:46
      I'm always in favour of having the right scientific terms available at least in the high level categories. I don't object to having other non-overlapping fantastical schemas if that's what people want to use (since we aren't doing science) but we should as a minimum be able to describe things in the way a modern human with some knowledge in the field would do so without giving them conniptions!

    • +300

      by Fearne
      on 2022-09-09 04:23

    • +300

      by A Roaring Dimensional Horror
      on 2022-09-09 01:30

    • +1

      by Bambam57
      on 2022-09-08 18:19

    • +300

      by jdtcreates
      on 2022-09-08 16:17
      I didn't actually know the difference in terms so this was enlightening. Also I do prefer accuracy in terms so I agree.

    • +300

      by Sach2000
      on 2022-09-08 13:23

    • +300

      by PrincessESH
      on 2022-09-08 01:03
      For the geologists!!

    • +1

      by AvalonFaery
      on 2022-09-07 00:53

    • +300

      by Adamsauce
      on 2022-09-07 00:50

    • +1

      by Vistyle
      on 2022-09-06 17:28

    • +300

      by A Frightened Kobold
      on 2022-09-06 16:04

    • +300

      by Lucifer__oO
      on 2022-09-06 14:36

    • +100

      by Endrise
      on 2022-09-06 09:10

    • +300

      by floranova13
      on 2022-09-06 02:54
      Love this

    • +300

      by M. A. E. Krawczyk
      on 2022-09-05 16:02

    • +300

      by Everwild
      on 2022-09-05 15:20
      WA needs a "Standards" (translates to "tidy and organize") committee across the board on ALL the templates. I applaud the effort to help us when we get stuck on that "what is it?" question, but I'd seriously prefer blank text fields to having to choose the next best thing, especially where things like this that require a bit of refinement are required. As far as I know (Not a geologist), there are only three types of 'Rock': igneous, sedimentary, and metamorphic. And for those who want to break the mold (..."but it's not from Earth!") there can always be an option for "Rock, Other". I am offering an upvote of +300 cuz I have the points to spare and I wanna save geologists everywhere from the Conniption Monster. :)

    • +1

      by Michael Chandra
      on 2022-09-05 07:40
      Additional options: Yes. Replacing existing options: No. For some worlds, "ore" or "stone" is EXACTLY how you want it.

    • +300

      by Musicscout
      on 2022-09-05 02:38
      I would appreciate the options for Gems, Ores/metals, Coal, Quality Stone, Misc Rock.

    • +100

      by SebGreg732
      on 2022-09-05 01:01
      While I don't think "Stone" should be removed (some fantasy worlds don't have the same geology as Earth), I can see how having the three rock types listed as separate options could be pleasing.

    • +100

      by Adcheryl
      on 2022-09-04 08:22

    • +100

      by Skulkton
      on 2022-09-04 02:08

    • +100

      by AMBrantley
      on 2022-09-03 19:55

    • +1

      by storyauthor
      on 2022-09-03 17:11

    • +300

      by fwalton
      on 2022-09-03 16:28

    • +100

      by NESz
      on 2022-09-03 12:33

    • +100

      by Mochimanoban
      on 2022-09-03 12:32

    • +300

      by Melora
      on 2022-09-03 08:37

    • +300

      by Serbaayuu
      on 2022-09-03 03:38

    • +300

      by Gate Keeper
      on 2022-09-02 23:39

    • +300

      by NovaTerra
      on 2022-09-02 20:34

    • +300

      by SoulLink
      on 2022-09-02 18:10

    • +100

      by A Goodhearted Dryad
      on 2022-09-02 13:06

    • +300

      by Oneriwien
      on 2022-09-02 06:22
      +1 to (Rock could be usefully split into three types (such as 'Rock, Sedimentary,' 'Rock, Metamorphic,' and 'Rock, Ignious')

    • +100

      by Shadow Malachi
      on 2022-09-02 04:48

    • +100

      by twirlingfox
      on 2022-09-02 02:41

    • +300

      by Ratha
      on 2022-09-02 02:29

    • +300

      by DaniAdventures
      on 2022-09-01 23:18

    • +1

      by ss2020
      on 2022-09-01 20:24

    • +300

      by Angantyr
      on 2022-09-01 20:12
      +300 for increased accuracy :)

    • +300

      by Naelin
      on 2022-09-01 18:11
      Silly to think this would not help clearly communicating the worldbuilding concepts. Have you seen the amount of building/geography types there are in the list and how many requests there are to add 5 more?   How would separating clumped-together concepts be "pleasing semantics loving geologists" any more than adding "Map, Topographic" or "Supercontinent" pleases the few people that will use those?   (Loving the picture and the amazing humor, btw. Also TIL about the word "conniption". Beautiful word.)

    • +300

      by AuraGuard
      on 2022-09-01 18:00
      It would be nice to have Ore be separate (as it does specify a form of impure, unrefined material that some worlds may make significant use of), and Rock could be usefully split into three types (such as 'Rock, Sedimentary,' 'Rock, Metamorphic,' and 'Rock, Ignious'). (Please pardon any spelling errors, it's been a while.)   The ability to have specifics would be lovely, not to mention that the different types of rock is something that folks're taught in elementary school (or are in my country, anyway).

    • +100

      by blurrito
      on 2022-09-01 17:52
      voting for u bc the pic made me laugh. also re: the comment about why bother as long as its clear for the layperson, arranging it like this WOULD be clearer for the layperson. as it is now, theres already confusion between metal and ore

    • +1

      by Kros!
      on 2022-09-01 16:44

    • +100

      by Buzzard
      on 2022-09-01 16:14

    • +300

      by SolarCat02
      on 2022-09-01 16:11
      Save the geologists. As a mechanical engineer, I can get behind this. This would make materials classification feel a bit easier and more accurate, for me.

    • +300

      by Dhelian
      on 2022-09-01 15:41

    • +1

      by Julian Ralid
      on 2022-09-01 14:50

    • +300

      by AmélieIS
      on 2022-09-01 14:50

    • +300

      by nnie
      on 2022-09-01 14:49

    • +1

      by tjtrewin
      on 2022-09-01 13:32

    • +100

      by Vibeca
      on 2022-09-01 08:46

    • -1

      by Tijmuhn
      on 2022-09-01 08:27

    • -1

      by Scalenex
      on 2022-09-01 06:19
      Sorry I'm more concerned with fantasy writers clearing communicating concepts lay people understand than I care about pleasing semantics loving geologists

    • +300

      by illumiinae
      on 2022-09-01 01:17

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