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Family Tree Customization Options

New Feature Addition · Family trees · Created by CraniumBeaver

accepted

First of all: the family tree system is great. Its complexity and depth is wonderful. Here I'd like to propose some graphical customisation options for it. Some background first, however! Making a large family tree requires that I create lots of articles. I do not have the time or the creative capacity to make all of these articles into proper articles, i.e. articles with content and images and good formatting. Most characters in family trees are just names and vague ideas -- nothing else. What follows is that I place most such characters in a hidden "dummy relative category" instead of clogging up my usual character categories with them and make the articles private. The dummies are then largely hidden from viewers. Fair enough, works for me.

What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

After making a whole bunch of dummy relatives for a family tree, the tree is filled with World Anvil logos, i.e. the portraits. I'm a perfectionist and would like the family tree to appear finished and I think placeholder logos go against that. Another problem is that 90 % of character names function as links to Multipass because those articles are private (because there is no content in them). I fear this can lead to frustration when someone other than me is trying to browse the family tree in order to find the 10 % of articles that actually are readable. The Solution(s). I propose two improvements:

Hiding character portraits in the family tree.
Disabling article linking in the family tree.

How does this feature request address the current situation?

1. Hiding portraits.

This would remove the placeholder logos and make me happy. I would be entirely content with the family tree being just names and birth dates in boxes. Three ways to implement this that I can think of:

World-wide toggle to show/hide all portraits in family trees. Add a switch into world settings that disables all portraits in family trees for the world.
World-wide toggle to show/hide placeholder portraits in family trees. Same as previous but this only hides the logos and leaves visible any actual portraits that I have added to character articles.
Character-specific toggle to show/hide portrait in family trees. Add an ON/OFF switch to the relationships-tab in each character article. This could show/hide both the portrait and the placeholder logo.

2. Disabling links.

This would stop people from banging their heads against the wall that is Multipass. I would also like to add that there could be some kind of visual clue in the family tree that which character names are links and which are not -- some color or icon or whatever that makes it clear that "You should click here! But don't click there, that would be pointless!" Three ways to implement this that I can think of:

World-wide toggle to enable/disable. Again in the world settings.
Enabling/disabling would be automatic and tied to article status. Public/private? Draft/published?
Character-specific toggle. Again in the relationships-tab: "Disable links to this article in family trees, ON/OFF"
Subscriber-specific toggle? I dunno how subcriber groups affect family trees currently, I haven't actually tested it...

What are other uses for this feature request?

Besides addressing my particular pet-peeves with family trees, these additions would allow new customisation options for all authors. I think the ultimate benefit/goal here should be a kind of "visual polarization" of the family tree into the characters that are well fleshed out versus those that are just names. It would be great if the family tree used visual clues to guide readers into clicking open the articles of the "proper characters" while helping them to intuitively avoid trying to open any "dummy articles" (i.e. Multipass in my world). And I guess this principle of customization could be expanded to other things as well. Maybe somebody wants to hide titles from family trees? Maybe somebody wants to hide the birth and death years? And so on and so forth.

The Team's Response

Hello amazing beans!

Thank you CraniumBeaver for your suggestion, and all of you for your contributions, thoughts and voting. I am attaching below my thoughts. This suggestion is wholeheartedly accepted.

What will happen

Ability to remove placeholder images

System to check if the user who is browsing has access to the article linked, if not, do not activate the link

Ability to set global (world) placeholder for Family trees

Ability to set some per-tree settings that define its visualisation.

What will be discussed

Additional markings (major/minor)

What will not happen

Fake non existent characters only for a Family tree. An article will always be required. (there are SO many ways to hide an article from others and yourself)

Current score

343/300 Votes · +59600 points

Votes Cast

+20

by Hanhula
on 2021-09-16 01:57
+50

by rgroberts
on 2021-09-16 00:55
+50

by J_Fitz
on 2021-09-16 00:23
+50

by soaptoaster
on 2021-09-15 19:05
+50

by Lionade
on 2021-09-15 17:09
+300

by HeavenOnFire
on 2021-09-15 17:00
+20

by juldum54
on 2021-09-15 15:46
+300

by ULFHED1NN
on 2021-09-15 15:07
+300

by lia_anna
on 2021-09-15 14:11
+300

by gnjcksn
on 2021-09-15 12:11
+100

by kaibrightwing
on 2021-09-15 11:54
+300

by losfer
on 2021-09-15 08:49
+300

by DMFW
on 2021-09-15 07:18
+300

by Eve Beyond
on 2021-09-15 05:27
+100

by LeighThalion
on 2021-09-15 02:51
+100

by mgjemi
on 2021-09-15 00:48
+300

by Jester%
on 2021-09-15 00:15
+50

by Lazy_Luzzy
on 2021-09-14 23:43
+20

by Bambam57
on 2021-09-14 23:41
+100

by wastegem
on 2021-09-14 23:06
+200

by inkythoughts
on 2021-09-14 22:02
Maybe it would already be enough if we had the option to not link an article and just place a name and/or image with the option to add character articles etc. later if one feels like it but not as a requirement.
+50

by redbeardcreator
on 2021-09-14 18:27
+100

by cforestdark
on 2021-09-14 17:58
+300

by Valerun
on 2021-09-14 15:57
+50

by GeminiCleric
on 2021-09-14 15:56
+300

by Ben Mobley
on 2021-09-14 14:19
+200

by Montedemo
on 2021-09-14 14:08
+200

by TheCavemanMan
on 2021-09-14 13:23
+300

by Dex2046
on 2021-09-14 01:20
+300

by Nezera
on 2021-09-14 00:20
+20

by Leek
on 2021-09-13 22:28
+50

by Zaekulia
on 2021-09-13 21:15
+300

by Soutti
on 2021-09-13 16:47
+10

by samajama552
on 2021-09-13 15:41
+300

by mistwalker
on 2021-09-13 11:47
+300

by Bmbt
on 2021-09-13 10:02
+300

by Macaroy
on 2021-09-13 07:23
+300

by Elaryon
on 2021-09-13 07:20
+10

by VestOfHolding
on 2021-09-13 06:54
+300

by niterune
on 2021-09-13 01:43
+50

by Nightgaara
on 2021-09-12 21:24
+200

by Solhaven
on 2021-09-12 20:55
+300

by Moleridge
on 2021-09-12 20:08
+50

by Sylosis
on 2021-09-12 20:02
+10

by Rags_GM
on 2021-09-12 18:10
+50

by A Lambent Eye
on 2021-09-12 15:42
+200

by A Cute Kitten
on 2021-09-12 13:40
+100

by arollinson
on 2021-09-12 10:40
+300

by DroidRanger
on 2021-09-12 10:01
+100

by Bughulk12
on 2021-09-12 03:43
+50

by Endor60001
on 2021-09-12 03:05
+100

by Makale2P
on 2021-09-12 02:34
+300

by Cheeky_witch
on 2021-09-12 00:43
+300

by BasicDragon
on 2021-09-11 22:33
I'd enjoy a family tree where the only the focus character have a photo...and it's not possbible to click on characters whose articles are private. Or just a simple family tree with name and dob.
+300

by RocketPanda
on 2021-09-11 20:05
+10

by xluminaheart
on 2021-09-11 20:02
+50

by mgcooley
on 2021-09-11 18:59
+300

by Isafol
on 2021-09-11 14:48
+300

by camicluster
on 2021-09-11 14:24
+200

by FenDawnchild
on 2021-09-11 08:15
+300

by santoswi
on 2021-09-11 07:55
+20

by Ironpanda
on 2021-09-11 06:23
+300

by That weirdo next door
on 2021-09-11 00:34
+300

by RyderBailey
on 2021-09-10 22:07
+10

by GreyMarq
on 2021-09-10 21:47
+20

by yatenari
on 2021-09-10 19:20
+300

by Screg
on 2021-09-10 18:36
+20

by Alex Kochetov
on 2021-09-10 18:29
+100

by Svaddy
on 2021-09-10 16:32
+300

by calvinhawley
on 2021-09-10 16:07
+300

by kreendurron
on 2021-09-10 15:09
+300

by Jayoak
on 2021-09-10 12:22
+50

by A Thundering Dimensional Horror
on 2021-09-10 11:53
+300

by TheREALHayster
on 2021-09-10 09:40
+300

by FirethornDragon
on 2021-09-10 08:57
+300

by masonjar96
on 2021-09-10 07:52
+20

by Taerocker
on 2021-09-10 06:05
+50

by jrselwyn01
on 2021-09-10 02:58
+200

by LittleGrimmReap
on 2021-09-10 02:30
+50

by DColquitt42
on 2021-09-10 02:21
+300

by TheSolitaryGamer
on 2021-09-10 01:39
+300

by esongbird24601
on 2021-09-10 01:37
+300

by RuudeAF
on 2021-09-10 00:29
+300

by Koranami
on 2021-09-09 20:45
+300

by ano19920
on 2021-09-09 20:39
+300

by Katdragon55
on 2021-09-09 18:54
+10

by Master_of_Kobolds
on 2021-09-09 16:55
+100

by PartTimeLoli
on 2021-09-09 10:16
+100

by Keniisu
on 2021-09-09 10:15
+50

by MelonBoi6580
on 2021-09-09 09:10
+300

by Cobalt_Contrivance
on 2021-09-09 07:26
+20

by KajetanWrites
on 2021-09-09 06:48
+50

by IronChancelor
on 2021-09-09 06:32
+10

by PhilosoShy
on 2021-09-09 05:26
+10

by ExodusLARPSystems
on 2021-09-09 04:33
I think this could be simply fixed by just adding an option for a simple family tree which just goes by names and does not allow pictures at all, to clean this up a bit.
+50

by Uljbid
on 2021-09-09 02:12
+300

by ReginaCaeli
on 2021-09-09 01:46
+300

by penofdl
on 2021-09-09 01:46
+300

by Void_Epiphany
on 2021-09-09 01:45
+300

by Adrith_Karlile
on 2021-09-09 01:03
+300

by Baromosa
on 2021-09-09 00:42
+300

by Jauq
on 2021-09-09 00:11
+100

by Torii Yuka
on 2021-09-09 00:02
+300

by Thoreo
on 2021-09-09 00:02
+100

by KingWestie
on 2021-09-08 22:52
+300

by LNalls
on 2021-09-08 21:46
+200

by PhntmDrgn
on 2021-09-08 21:18
+300

by ecl1psed
on 2021-09-08 20:21
+200

by PartyBoy
on 2021-09-08 19:48
+10

by dre569
on 2021-09-08 17:53
+300

by Athena Rae
on 2021-09-08 16:52
I'm in the same boat with the family tree and dummy character articles. Love this idea and would utilize the heck out of it if it was available. Really like the character specific options you listed out as some of my characters have pictures and others don't.
+50

by Kondoriano
on 2021-09-08 15:02
+300

by Oughterard87
on 2021-09-08 14:22
+300

by Shirokappa
on 2021-09-08 13:29
+200

by DarthGaymer
on 2021-09-08 12:55
+200

by Hexomanya
on 2021-09-08 12:22
+300

by Una
on 2021-09-08 11:56
+300

by Shinikamime
on 2021-09-08 11:10
+20

by Teinar
on 2021-09-08 09:33
+300

by Sweet101052
on 2021-09-08 07:36
+300

by Diabboru
on 2021-09-08 06:42
+100

by JetpackMonkey
on 2021-09-08 06:35
+300

by tachibanaryu
on 2021-09-08 02:18
+100

by Plasma Ring
on 2021-09-08 02:10
+10

by Wunderphull
on 2021-09-08 01:46
+200

by Baalon
on 2021-09-08 00:45
+20

by Archivist_Ogion
on 2021-09-07 22:18
+300

by rubenbuben4
on 2021-09-07 19:28
+100

by twevan
on 2021-09-07 19:12
+10

by Khanable
on 2021-09-07 17:22
+300

by Zimo
on 2021-09-07 15:35
+100

by Terrible Avenger
on 2021-09-07 14:48
+300

by Jacquefisch
on 2021-09-07 12:51
+300

by Morrovion
on 2021-09-07 07:20
+100

by CherryBlossomTree
on 2021-09-07 05:42
+100

by ClarissaGosling
on 2021-09-07 05:41
+300

by halduron
on 2021-09-07 05:06
+300

by michaelthominks
on 2021-09-07 02:09
+50

by Rawilow
on 2021-09-07 00:37
+300

by clonetone
on 2021-09-07 00:17
+300

by Dmon_Actual
on 2021-09-06 22:11
+20

by brin2020
on 2021-09-06 19:59
+200

by Initiative_tv
on 2021-09-06 19:36
+300

by DeepBlueSea
on 2021-09-06 17:39
+300

by Nick_Scryer
on 2021-09-06 16:57
+20

by Roxanlita
on 2021-09-06 15:26
+100

by zoranac
on 2021-09-06 15:25
+200

by Namelessesst
on 2021-09-06 15:01
+300

by deepfriedpencils
on 2021-09-06 08:40
+300

by Curly DM
on 2021-09-06 06:04
+50

by TimeLifesomeone
on 2021-09-06 04:36
+200

by Xras7
on 2021-09-06 03:20
+10

by A Mischievous Mimic
on 2021-09-06 02:25
+50

by Reece107
on 2021-09-06 00:53
+300

by Runeheart
on 2021-09-05 21:14
+100

by Krylitech
on 2021-09-05 19:11
+50

by Daedalus501
on 2021-09-05 17:56
+100

by polymorphmt
on 2021-09-05 12:48
+20

by FizzyBee
on 2021-09-05 12:47
All of the above sounds compelling and interesting! The thing I most identify with is the desire to split characters up into those that play a major role, minor role, or are nothing more than perhaps a name, DOB, etc.
+300

by Teknomancer
on 2021-09-05 10:52
+100

by Shamajotsi
on 2021-09-05 09:42
+300

by foxteeth
on 2021-09-05 06:51
+300

by LordTerrantos
on 2021-09-05 06:31
+300

by Ebondjr
on 2021-09-05 02:12
+200

by SrSpaceCadet
on 2021-09-05 01:57
+50

by ferret55
on 2021-09-05 00:47
+50

by sereinknight
on 2021-09-04 22:24
+50

by Ragnys
on 2021-09-04 21:30
+20

by MimIvyh
on 2021-09-04 21:24
+300

by mws500
on 2021-09-04 19:55
Yes please give us an option to toggle certain portraits to not display
+100

by erevainsgirl
on 2021-09-04 18:36
+50

by A Goodhearted Dwarf
on 2021-09-04 17:45
+300

by Kaleidechse
on 2021-09-04 17:37
Disabling links for private and/or draft articles would be great. And an option to mark a character as major, minor or "filler" would be even better. I'd love to highlight those who are most relevant to my world, e.g. a king who shaped history significantly, or a point-of-view character as opposed to their family background.
+300

by Ondo
on 2021-09-04 14:15
Good idea, no images is better than placeholder images for a finished tree.
+10

by NightShift
on 2021-09-04 13:19
+300

by Xavier Palix
on 2021-09-04 13:08
+300

by Amancham
on 2021-09-04 08:56
This sounds amazing. Visual indicator of 'major characters' with sheets or 'minor characters' without additional sheet/information would be great, too.
+300

by LucasDLK
on 2021-09-04 08:55
+300

by -KansheeK-
on 2021-09-04 08:49
+50

by Hitze
on 2021-09-04 05:14
+100

by CQuill07
on 2021-09-04 03:19
+10

by jupiterbeforedawn
on 2021-09-04 02:31
+10

by kasmiras
on 2021-09-04 00:28
+50

by Alishahr
on 2021-09-03 18:46
+200

by SerAndreas
on 2021-09-03 16:20
+200

by OffensivePlant
on 2021-09-03 14:04
+300

by toffepajja
on 2021-09-03 14:01
+300

by Jonfaulken
on 2021-09-03 11:32
+100

by SmokingKitten
on 2021-09-03 11:12
+20

by Angisarus
on 2021-09-03 10:19
+200

by A Fierce Orc
on 2021-09-03 07:30
+300

by Thatzer
on 2021-09-03 07:19
+50

by JodieCarter
on 2021-09-03 07:00
+300

by Thirinu
on 2021-09-03 06:10
+20

by Hotshot922
on 2021-09-03 05:37
+300

by Llanyia
on 2021-09-03 04:43
+300

by Quasadu
on 2021-09-03 04:03
+300

by DomTSVG
on 2021-09-03 01:57
+100

by $heckles
on 2021-09-03 01:00
+100

by CaffiniComics
on 2021-09-03 00:58
+20

by AJWithall
on 2021-09-03 00:39
+10

by Quill&Paper
on 2021-09-02 22:06
+50

by SerenityMercyHope
on 2021-09-02 21:43
+300

by sluedis
on 2021-09-02 19:08
+50

by Baykugan
on 2021-09-02 19:06
+100

by 13Emperor37
on 2021-09-02 18:21
+300

by Bluboram
on 2021-09-02 17:21
+300

by Mayren
on 2021-09-02 15:35
+50

by ThePouil
on 2021-09-02 15:09
+100

by kieranhoare
on 2021-09-02 14:55
+20

by chamdy
on 2021-09-02 14:04
+300

by ChrisJWalker
on 2021-09-02 12:39
+100

by Reine-des-prés
on 2021-09-02 12:11
+50

by philmillar
on 2021-09-02 11:44
+100

by K1NG319
on 2021-09-02 10:46
+50

by EmberJ
on 2021-09-02 10:35
+50

by A Revolutionary Orc
on 2021-09-02 10:10
+300

by TissLily
on 2021-09-02 08:09
+100

by JETZIXX
on 2021-09-02 07:33
+50

by KingUK10
on 2021-09-02 05:46
+300

by Nubs
on 2021-09-02 04:26
+300

by JetSetDrift
on 2021-09-02 03:03
+300

by Arkines
on 2021-09-01 21:43
+200

by gajusmaximus
on 2021-09-01 20:54
+300

by theaaronw0
on 2021-09-01 19:22
+200

by Tijmuhn
on 2021-09-01 17:49
+100

by Mofff
on 2021-09-01 15:00
+300

by deltamagna
on 2021-09-01 14:45
+50

by VulpesUpskirta
on 2021-09-01 07:05
+50

by TisTheLark
on 2021-09-01 03:07
+50

by xSpazztic
on 2021-09-01 01:09
+300

by TheMightyPalm
on 2021-09-01 00:26
+200

by Jarhed
on 2021-08-31 23:14
+300

by Truewing
on 2021-08-31 22:42
+50

by kopy
on 2021-08-31 22:26
+300

by TheStoryBeard
on 2021-08-31 21:10
+300

by MissCosmica
on 2021-08-31 19:23
+50

by stigthesheep
on 2021-08-31 18:39
+300

by Soulwing
on 2021-08-31 18:08
+300

by Bound
on 2021-08-31 17:42
+50

by Phil Davidson
on 2021-08-31 17:37
+300

by June
on 2021-08-31 17:03
+300

by RavenDarksword
on 2021-08-31 16:33
+300

by ScottM701
on 2021-08-31 16:12
+300

by EverRaven
on 2021-08-31 15:54
+200

by Reaper89
on 2021-08-31 15:18
+100

by Dr Mikachu
on 2021-08-31 13:57
+20

by WizardODwa
on 2021-08-31 11:49
+300

by A Mischievous Kobold
on 2021-08-31 11:27
+300

by Hope Tilia
on 2021-08-31 09:33
+300

by Knuffel
on 2021-08-31 08:57
+200

by Growlithe
on 2021-08-31 08:23
+100

by Tliotlnoypil
on 2021-08-31 07:52
+300

by Moridrin
on 2021-08-31 06:47
+200

by incedio7
on 2021-08-31 05:40
+100

by valvano30
on 2021-08-31 01:54
+10

by A Enfeebled Cthulhu
on 2021-08-30 23:22
+50

by Drawkill Dragon
on 2021-08-30 22:51
+50

by Dinowolf13
on 2021-08-30 19:48
+300

by Cryssalia
on 2021-08-30 19:21
+300

by MisterJaye
on 2021-08-30 18:58
+300

by Andersdj
on 2021-08-30 18:39
+300

by Loyalair
on 2021-08-30 17:18
Love the suggestions for disabling portraits and article links, I would hope that fulfils the system requirements for still having an article attached. An example that comes to mind is when Wikipedia displays dead links in red.
+100

by 404UserNotFound
on 2021-08-30 16:02
+100

by AceMaster
on 2021-08-30 15:30
I think you have done a fab good describing what can be done and how to do it. I love the Family Tree, and my whole world is built around how everyone is connected, which is alot and can be kinda crazy when you need articles for those people. I know that they family tree is complicated system and we can't get rid of needing to make those articles but I thing a visual clue that helps people know what is a full article and what is just a sentence or two is a great idea!
+20

by Fenris_the_Bloodfang
on 2021-08-30 15:21
+300

by DerIilon
on 2021-08-30 13:57
+100

by Soundwavesghost
on 2021-08-30 13:54
+200

by tophertalks
on 2021-08-30 12:14
+300

by CryoNymph
on 2021-08-30 12:03
+300

by imly2k
on 2021-08-30 10:34
+300

by Nikkor89
on 2021-08-30 06:40
+100

by Magdelas
on 2021-08-30 03:10
+300

by sryxi
on 2021-08-30 00:36
+300

by Binibini
on 2021-08-30 00:26
+300

by Mmgood2000
on 2021-08-30 00:07
+300

by ThatDiceGuy
on 2021-08-30 00:04
+50

by Thin Lizzy
on 2021-08-30 00:01
+100

by Kameron M. Sovka
on 2021-08-29 23:29
I would love to have an on/off toggle for character portraits in the tree. It would be great for making more visually condensed trees.
+300

by morganarcher
on 2021-08-29 23:20
+300

by Lenna Richards
on 2021-08-29 22:55
I also believe that we should be able to mark the article in some way as a minor (totally insignificant and just there to be a person in the tree) and a major (a character that has importance and a sheet).
+100

by voodrew
on 2021-08-29 21:37
+300

by Crunchdown
on 2021-08-29 20:48
+10

by masters_mortuum
on 2021-08-29 19:56
+300

by A Glamorous Dryad
on 2021-08-29 18:41
+300

by MisterMatt
on 2021-08-29 17:19
+300

by oliwija
on 2021-08-29 12:23
+50

by Kakurine
on 2021-08-29 10:30
+200

by Melendor
on 2021-08-29 10:27
+50

by Nomaris
on 2021-08-29 10:06
+100

by TheTsar
on 2021-08-29 07:31
+300

by Silviooooooo
on 2021-08-29 05:07
+10

by storyauthor
on 2021-08-29 04:01
+50

by Slexoss
on 2021-08-29 02:38
+50

by YikosCastle
on 2021-08-29 02:00
+20

by AvalonFaery
on 2021-08-28 21:37
+10

by cedes
on 2021-08-28 20:13
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Find your way!

Resources

WHO WE ARE

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Our Allies

Family Tree Customization Options

Family Tree Customization Options

What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

How does this feature request address the current situation?

1. Hiding portraits.

2. Disabling links.

What are other uses for this feature request?

The Team's Response

What will happen

What will be discussed

What will not happen

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