New Feature Addition · Articles & templates · Created by
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species character-creation character
What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?
In many fantasy settings there are multiple sapient species that can have children together, however currently when creating a character using the character template a writer can only select one species using existing (or creating new) species articles.
While it may be reasonable to create articles for common species mixes that appear frequently in the setting, if a writer has a many sapient species that can breed it can be excessive having to create an individual article for each possible combination - especially when a species mix is uncommon or only needed to fill out the species section of a character article. This can also lead to extreme article bloat within a world.
How does this feature request address the current situation?
By allowing a user to add multiple species (in the same way that a user can add multiple ethnicities) to a character it eliminates the need to create articles that an author may find arbitray or unnessecary.
Follow up
ALTERNATE SOLUTION:
This solution is completely different, but I think it would also serve to solve the issue I mentioned about article bloat. Another possible solution to this issue is to give users the ability to type out the name of a new species *without* requiring a new article to be created, similar to how you can write in a location in the "current residence" section of the character template without necessarily having to create a new article to reflect that location.
The Team's Response
Hey everyone!
Response to the Follow-up and Suggestion
A system that allows you to do that already exists. It's the key value system and it is specifically designed to do that (be used to add extreme cases of specialised cases). Considering that most characters either belong to a major species (that is what makes them a
major species, hybrids are a rare case (like Spock as mentioned above)
You can find more about the Key-values BBcode here:
https://www.worldanvil.com/w/WorldAnvilCodex/a/bbcode
Example of use
Do not use the species dropdown
Type the following:
--Species::Human[br]Elf[br]Your mom--
Displays as:
Species
Human
Elf
Your mom
This system can be used also with the @ system to replace teh Human, Elf or Your Mom species with links to those pages AND if you are a Grandmaster it can also be toggled using the visibility system
Suggestion statistics
As far as the suggestion goes, my opinion is just one more in the pile. We had 116 people voting, 10 of them negatively. that has not reached the 300 people threshold or the points gathered threshold.
The character article is already one of the most heavy and filled article templates and I do not want to burden it with more options that will be more confusing than helpful in most of the cases.
As always you can message me at the
development-discussion channel in discord to discuss further.
Personal Opinion and current reasoning
I have to admit that this thread made me want to bring a geneticist/biologist on stream because I am finding fascinating how much misunderstanding there is behind the definition of a species.
Just to clarify, Spock, as it was mentioned has a single species, yes he is unique but he still belongs to a singular species. He is not carrying the genetic material of two species in him, he has a singular strain of DNA that defines his species. Of course there is a lot of handwavium involved on how Spock can exist being the biproduct of 2 species that come for two different planets but yes, he existence implies the fact.
If you want to bring it closer to earth let's talk about CORN, Hybrids of corn are still their own hybridized new species of corn - hybrids may or may not be
viable ( which actually means that they can have progeny) or not but they are still their own species. That is why all products of a horse and a donkey are mules (even if mules cannot produce offspring of their own (most commonly)
In RPG terms a half-elf or a half-dwarf is also not two species. When you create (most commonly) a half elf you do not get the abilities of the human and the abilities of an elf an mash them together to create a thing that has both or even parts of its predecessors. They are completely unique and have their own rules which are in some games a mix of the previous and is many other cases utterly different.
In truth I think that this
might come down to laziness, simply, and understandably you might not want to create multiple articles for each hybridized species character, and I get that.
Current score
116/300 Votes · +19580 points