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Better Diplomacy Webs

Feature Upgrade · Organization charts · Created by james.a.b

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First of all I would like to acknowledge that this is not a completely new suggestion. Much of this concept was suggested here, by user Zeer Gales. However, Dimitri said he would like to see it re-suggested with more clarity so here I am.

What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

Currently, diplomacy webs are -though useful- quite clunky to impliment and use. In order to add organizations or edit the web, one must edit the relationships between each organization one-by-one. I would like to propose a better interface system as well as some extra design features that I think would enable better designs and more flexibility. Starting with my proposal for a different interface, I think the ability to edit the web directly is necessary- A single page where one can add organizations and then edit their relationships directly would be nice. Perhaps something similar to the content tree tool page? I would also like to be able to edit the scroll in/out ability of the web as one can currently do for maps; I feel that this would greatly reduce the feeling of clunkiness in viewing the web. Alternatively, a check box which disables scrolling and therefore freezes the web in place may work, provided it does so at the correct magnification. Additionally, I would like to be able to edit the colours denoting relationships within the web for clearer readability, as well as introduce an optional pop up panel which appears when you click on a relationship line- This pop-up would display the notes written about that relationship, allowing for greater clarity of information within the system. Also, the ability to manually position each item within the web would allow for grouping of separate types of organization as well as organization by alphabetical order, aesthetic, map location, or other systems. I feel that this would allow for much greater flexibility in both design and application of diplomacy webs. Alternatively, a drop-down menu which automatically sorts the web by different organizational systems may work, although one would need to have defined each organization by type beforehand in some cases, and this system would not allow for as much flexibility as manual positioning. Finally, it would be nice to be able to alter the appearance of relationship lines to better fit with aesthetics or to display different types of relationship. I propose a dotted line option, at the very least, and perhaps other types of line such as a dashed line or a dotted-and-dashed line as well.

How does this feature request address the current situation?

Currently, diplomacy webs cannot be edited directly, nor is there a central page from which you can see each relationship, save for the chart itself. One has to go to each organization article and edit each relationship separately under the 'diplomacy' tab, which can be time consuming, especially when you have more than two or three organizations within your web.

As for my proposed design features, I believe that implimenting them would allow for greater flexibility and clarity of information in diplomacy webs. Currently, one cannot edit the colours which denote relationships between organizations, but some of these colours are light enough in hue that they fail to read clearly against a light background. My proposal would introduce custom colour options, which should solve this prtoblem and allow for greater customization.

Moreover, notes written about relationships do not currently display at all, which feels to me like a lost opportunity. An optional pop-up box which displays that information when the relationship line is clicked on would facilitate better understanding for those who don't intuitively know what the relationship lines denote, especially in regards to organizations who are mismatched in how they feel towards one another. Different types of line (straight, dotted, etc) could denote different kinds of relationship between organizations, from business relationships to personal ties and beyond. This, again, would allow for greater flexibility as well as enabling diplomacy webs to convey more information in an elegant manner.

What are other uses for this feature request?

The possibilities inherent in diplomacy webs are nearly endless, but they are currently constrained by the clunky interface system. I feel that this feature upgrade would allow diplomacy webs to display much larger amounts of information in an elegant, easy-to-read manner.

The Team's Response

Some really good points, some very bad ones on this suggestion. Regardless I understand the point and the issues. I will investigate but this IS going to be a major project by itself even if it was to be partly implemented.

Current score

288/300 Votes · +52140 points

Votes Cast

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by Hyldal
on 2021-10-12 08:27
+300

by Matthew Scott Miller
on 2021-10-12 07:36
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by Neverdusk
on 2021-10-12 04:59
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by Giabralter
on 2021-10-12 04:08
+10

by GoBatson
on 2021-10-12 00:38
+10

by Shamajotsi
on 2021-10-11 21:48
+10

by Il_Duca
on 2021-10-11 21:38
+50

by peppermintroses
on 2021-10-11 19:47
+100

by Bluboram
on 2021-10-11 17:09
+100

by StoryTellerCrow
on 2021-10-11 15:45
+100

by Micah Olson
on 2021-10-11 03:36
+300

by Lucid-dreamer
on 2021-10-10 23:10
+50

by Saker
on 2021-10-10 22:25
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by JetpackMonkey
on 2021-10-10 21:20
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by A Thundering Dimensional Horror
on 2021-10-10 21:13
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by Zed.c
on 2021-10-10 20:05
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by rubenbuben4
on 2021-10-10 19:47
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by MrKrixpy
on 2021-10-10 14:52
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by ScottYarbrough
on 2021-10-10 14:42
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by Bandoro
on 2021-10-10 14:06
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by Exohammer
on 2021-10-10 05:50
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by Kaylee309
on 2021-10-10 05:32
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by Dawn Solidae
on 2021-10-10 04:13
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by NONGENTESIMUS
on 2021-10-10 04:01
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by Zegwritingdemon
on 2021-10-10 00:14
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by Carantire
on 2021-10-09 23:05
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by Mr.bacon227
on 2021-10-09 21:34
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by Ikeybones
on 2021-10-09 20:57
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by Aeroxis
on 2021-10-09 18:47
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on 2021-10-09 15:46
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by tacoturtle
on 2021-10-09 15:28
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by Lord Calde
on 2021-10-09 15:02
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by A Enfeebled Dryad
on 2021-10-09 11:38
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on 2021-10-09 05:03
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on 2021-10-09 01:42
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on 2021-10-08 21:29
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on 2021-10-08 20:36
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by handandler
on 2021-10-08 17:25
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on 2021-10-08 16:30
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by Atlis14
on 2021-10-08 13:09
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by wolfregis
on 2021-10-08 13:00
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by LamiiaSuu
on 2021-10-08 08:35
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by A Goodhearted Elf
on 2021-10-08 07:36
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on 2021-10-08 07:25
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on 2021-10-08 05:44
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on 2021-10-08 00:46
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on 2021-10-07 23:39
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on 2021-10-07 21:31
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on 2021-10-07 20:34
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by authorariarose
on 2021-10-07 16:08
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on 2021-10-07 15:03
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on 2021-10-07 12:42
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on 2021-10-07 08:00
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on 2021-10-07 07:58
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on 2021-10-07 03:56
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on 2021-10-06 17:39
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on 2021-10-06 04:16
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on 2021-10-06 01:52
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on 2021-10-06 01:24
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on 2021-10-06 00:12
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by bloomanddoom
on 2021-10-05 23:34
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on 2021-10-05 20:39
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on 2021-10-05 16:51
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on 2021-10-05 16:32
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on 2021-10-05 16:12
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on 2021-10-05 13:06
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on 2021-10-05 11:40
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on 2021-10-05 11:34
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on 2021-10-05 07:06
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on 2021-10-05 04:26
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on 2021-10-05 04:24
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on 2021-10-05 02:23
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on 2021-10-05 02:23
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on 2021-10-05 02:11
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on 2021-10-05 00:53
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by Great DunKhan
on 2021-10-04 23:27
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on 2021-10-04 23:04
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on 2021-10-04 20:46
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on 2021-10-04 17:59
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on 2021-10-04 15:19
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on 2021-10-04 15:04
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on 2021-10-04 14:40
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on 2021-10-04 14:04
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on 2021-10-04 11:58
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by Goddess_Of_Luck
on 2021-10-04 11:03
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by PrinceofMorgoth
on 2021-10-04 09:25
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by Dubius
on 2021-10-04 05:33
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by oliverrook
on 2021-10-04 04:00
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by SunDown19
on 2021-10-04 02:50
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by ATrueDuality
on 2021-10-04 02:11
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by Vanak Dawnbreaker
on 2021-10-04 02:08
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by ForgetfulRiver
on 2021-10-04 00:10
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by 713Moose
on 2021-10-03 23:17
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by L0rd Ramen
on 2021-10-03 20:17
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by Altair Khalid
on 2021-10-03 17:07
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by DuncanKellogg
on 2021-10-03 16:09
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by Dareword
on 2021-10-03 12:23
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by Nameseeker
on 2021-10-03 11:15
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by DonRu
on 2021-10-03 09:52
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by guvatara
on 2021-10-03 08:16
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by Amancham
on 2021-10-03 07:07
This sound like a ton of work, but I really would love if it was possible to implement. The suggestion sounds amazing. Full support.
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by Bip_Bop
on 2021-10-03 06:29
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by Macaroy
on 2021-10-03 04:07
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by LNalls
on 2021-10-03 01:21
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by BlazingArcanine
on 2021-10-02 22:30
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by AJWithall
on 2021-10-02 20:09
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by wolfoflight2003
on 2021-10-02 16:33
I can see great value in this idea
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by NewfieIconoclast
on 2021-10-02 14:01
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by Wahnsinnik
on 2021-10-02 12:33
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by Tortlicious
on 2021-10-02 11:25
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by A Filthy Kitten
on 2021-10-02 03:45
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on 2021-10-02 03:16
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by ccpadilla
on 2021-10-02 02:58
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by The Briar Wolf
on 2021-10-02 01:59
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by valhaia
on 2021-10-02 01:37
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by D20Gal
on 2021-10-01 23:32
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by Spact
on 2021-10-01 21:20
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by SudoGosu
on 2021-10-01 20:59
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by DaisyChick
on 2021-10-01 20:10
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by hunterrory
on 2021-10-01 11:52
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by valixor
on 2021-10-01 11:10
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by fredrich
on 2021-10-01 07:53
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by Storage_Jordan
on 2021-10-01 06:25
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by Eve Beyond
on 2021-10-01 04:29
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by A Goodhearted Cthulhu
on 2021-10-01 04:16
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by calvinhawley
on 2021-09-30 23:43
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by DiscardedStatue
on 2021-09-30 20:46
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by 13Emperor37
on 2021-09-30 20:00
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by WeirdCorvo
on 2021-09-30 19:17
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by Barbecue95
on 2021-09-30 13:22
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by zalzabar
on 2021-09-30 09:55
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by Grim712
on 2021-09-30 09:40
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by DMFW
on 2021-09-30 08:12
This is certainly a non-trivial request so we are asking for a significant piece of work but I would like it. The underlying tech could work as an engine for character relationships as well which would be a two for the price of one change.
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by Freak223
on 2021-09-30 07:43
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by jfeser
on 2021-09-30 07:37
I think this would be a significant interface for interacting with the world, but it has the potential to be as important as a geographical map or timeline. These are the sorts of things that distinguish WA from a basic wiki, and so while I agree it's a lot of work, it is a lot of work that should result in WA being that much better. I *LOVE* the idea of the popup text
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by Snapps
on 2021-09-30 06:04
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by stonebandit
on 2021-09-30 03:29
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by Arachnophonia
on 2021-09-30 03:22
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on 2021-09-30 03:20
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on 2021-09-30 02:56
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on 2021-09-30 02:18
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by Lucifer__oO
on 2021-09-30 01:27
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on 2021-09-30 01:13
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on 2021-09-29 23:31
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on 2021-09-29 23:08
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on 2021-09-29 22:42
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on 2021-09-29 21:27
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on 2021-09-29 19:01
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on 2021-09-29 18:00
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on 2021-09-29 17:54
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by ferrysnet
on 2021-09-29 16:56
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by FireFall333
on 2021-09-29 16:53
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on 2021-09-29 13:50
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on 2021-09-29 13:48
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on 2021-09-29 13:40
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on 2021-09-29 12:37
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by ClarissaGosling
on 2021-09-29 07:15
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by Pete Nelson
on 2021-09-29 06:42
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by ExodusLARPSystems
on 2021-09-29 05:01
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by EmperorCharlesII
on 2021-09-29 04:39
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by Castle59361
on 2021-09-29 04:19
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by NagaPrince
on 2021-09-29 03:29
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on 2021-09-29 03:00
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by Timesync
on 2021-09-29 02:35
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by Vixen Windsong
on 2021-09-29 01:15
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by SinTeKoe
on 2021-09-28 17:30
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on 2021-09-28 17:18
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by polymorphmt
on 2021-09-28 16:23
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by Shadowstar103
on 2021-09-28 13:45
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on 2021-09-28 13:04
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on 2021-09-28 12:24
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on 2021-09-28 12:09
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on 2021-09-28 11:05
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on 2021-09-28 08:43
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on 2021-09-28 06:39
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on 2021-09-28 04:50
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on 2021-09-28 04:30
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by DMSirSwank99
on 2021-09-28 02:49
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by Htwheatley
on 2021-09-27 22:43
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by Curly DM
on 2021-09-27 22:00
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by Frozedlight
on 2021-09-27 21:33
I love it would be very helpful for my soon to be war torn land
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by dragonoid720
on 2021-09-27 19:54
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by blairlanderson
on 2021-09-27 16:24
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by NESz
on 2021-09-27 16:06
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by danthebard
on 2021-09-27 16:05
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by PapaNomad
on 2021-09-27 15:44
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on 2021-09-27 15:26
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by ProfessorSputin
on 2021-09-27 14:01
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on 2021-09-27 13:28
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by lordofcrebain
on 2021-09-27 11:45
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by Simeonovvv
on 2021-09-27 10:07
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by RibenLARP
on 2021-09-27 06:00
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by AddAppend
on 2021-09-27 04:02
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by Starsavior
on 2021-09-27 03:58
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by jigahaganaga
on 2021-09-27 03:51
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by cedes
on 2021-09-27 02:28
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by Writing Bishop
on 2021-09-27 02:11
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by Wolf'shead117
on 2021-09-26 22:22
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on 2021-09-26 21:40
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on 2021-09-26 21:27
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on 2021-09-26 20:22
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on 2021-09-26 16:18
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on 2021-09-26 15:58
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on 2021-09-26 15:24
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on 2021-09-26 15:08
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on 2021-09-26 14:52
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on 2021-09-26 13:58
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on 2021-09-26 05:33
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by RyDiggs
on 2021-09-25 23:49
+300

by FantasyMusings
on 2021-09-25 22:47
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on 2021-09-25 21:58
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by Blueparox
on 2021-09-25 21:07
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by Tiberius Fursten
on 2021-09-25 20:47
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by Gamlasch
on 2021-09-25 20:25
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by Evernus
on 2021-09-25 19:39
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on 2021-09-25 19:36
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on 2021-09-25 18:25
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on 2021-09-25 17:43
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by Aelin Ninthalor
on 2021-09-25 16:02
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on 2021-09-25 15:55
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by Nightmane
on 2021-09-25 15:34
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by Lyraine Alei
on 2021-09-25 15:13
My multifaction civil war is a pain to adjust, but I think this would be something neat to have as a thought for if/when diplomacy webs are updated/overhauled.
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by Athevra
on 2021-09-25 14:05
Different type of lines—dashed, dotted, etc—also aid in accessibility. I support the whole ting, just wanted to double down on that bit.
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by theaaronw0
on 2021-09-25 13:33
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by zuulmaker
on 2021-09-25 12:22
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by Adcheryl
on 2021-09-25 11:50
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by TheWishKing
on 2021-09-25 11:49
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by Walicia
on 2021-09-25 10:23
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on 2021-09-25 10:20
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on 2021-09-25 10:08
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by Lillead
on 2021-09-25 07:20
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by Myblareus
on 2021-09-25 07:18
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by toffepajja
on 2021-09-25 06:28
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by Beric
on 2021-09-25 06:13
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by GoldenLokosian
on 2021-09-25 04:53
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by AvalonFaery
on 2021-09-25 00:55
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by CM_Dunkin
on 2021-09-25 00:42
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by modernmermaid
on 2021-09-25 00:39
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by Gumbino
on 2021-09-25 00:21
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by MatGun86
on 2021-09-24 23:43
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by Rachel Cornelius
on 2021-09-24 23:15
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by CristalViper
on 2021-09-24 22:16
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by Kybercat
on 2021-09-24 21:29
A essential upgrade for any complex "game of thrones-like" story
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by JohanWq
on 2021-09-24 17:27
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by Careen Ligh
on 2021-09-24 16:59
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by lthomas224
on 2021-09-24 15:40
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on 2021-09-24 14:10
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on 2021-09-24 10:30
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by Zeer Gales
on 2021-09-24 08:39
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on 2021-09-24 07:22
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on 2021-09-24 06:11
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on 2021-09-24 02:53
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on 2021-09-24 02:41
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on 2021-09-24 01:12
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by esongbird24601
on 2021-09-23 23:56
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by Vyxxer
on 2021-09-23 22:36
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by Vaporstrike19
on 2021-09-23 22:14
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by FizzyBee
on 2021-09-23 18:19
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by Llanyia
on 2021-09-23 17:12
While this would definitely be a large overhaul of the system and it would be quite a bit of work, I agree with a lot of what was said. I like the diplomacy web and I'm excited to use it, but right now it's not as useful as it could be. I've had to copy out the info I wrote to describe the relationships shown in the graphic into the body of my organizations' articles because there's no way for my readers to get to that information unless I do so. Perhaps not an onerous task, but it also negates the need for the web in the first place.
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by Tliotlnoypil
on 2021-09-23 17:09
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by StardustScrapper
on 2021-09-23 16:26
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by FictionFan1995
on 2021-09-23 16:14
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by TimDEnchanter
on 2021-09-23 15:58
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on 2021-09-23 14:07
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on 2021-09-23 14:00
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on 2021-09-23 13:58
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on 2021-09-23 11:15
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by juldum54
on 2021-09-23 10:39
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by A Goodhearted Elf
on 2021-09-23 10:38
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by jmgrabs
on 2021-09-23 10:29
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by CryoNymph
on 2021-09-23 08:37
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by Racussa
on 2021-09-23 06:37
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by Wingshaw
on 2021-09-23 06:35
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by A Cute Bananafolk
on 2021-09-23 03:21
Would you also like some fries and a jet ski with that ? :P Man - this is not one request and it's a complete redesign.
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by Ravanx52
on 2021-09-23 02:48
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by Magdelas
on 2021-09-23 02:05
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by Isaac Thompson
on 2021-09-23 01:46
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by A Glamorous Dimensional Horror
on 2021-09-23 01:45
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by amelianite
on 2021-09-23 01:35
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by RiverFang
on 2021-09-23 01:07
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by mastergentleman
on 2021-09-23 01:04
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by AvalonArcana
on 2021-09-23 00:44
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by Whisperfen
on 2021-09-23 00:09
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by penofdl
on 2021-09-22 23:19
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by NecroAura
on 2021-09-22 23:18
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by Dandrame
on 2021-09-22 23:07
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by PJMustang351
on 2021-09-22 22:37
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by ss2020
on 2021-09-22 22:09
This looks like a large change. It would be great though, as I am starting to get to this layer of work in my world.
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by james.a.b
on 2021-09-22 19:50

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The Team's Response

288/300 Votes · +52140 points

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+20