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collapsible and timeline events, now with pictures (hopefully it worked)

User Interface (UI) / User Experience (UX) · Timelines · Created by Logan Mountain
accepted
timeline ux timelines event events

What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

First off, I'm aware this has been broached before ... in fact this is a rehash of an email conversation from 4 years ago, and there was even another subject that seemed to be on the same subject ... BUT I wasn't sure that the response to that really addressed the concerns, and I thought I'd post this if only to include the old reference images I made, and to reinforce how much I want it lol AND project Chronos may completely invalidate the existing timeline system ... who knows ... ... I've also never made a suggestion before so I thought it would be worth a try.   Currently, even on a high res monitor, because the timline is vertical instead of horizontal, and because the entries are so large and so widely spaced, you can only see a couple at a time.   Half the point of a timeline is to show the broader context of one event amongst many ... the current implementation prevents this.   My suggested change would make each event "collapsed" by default to only show title and icon, then clicking on it would expand that event to it's current size (bumping everything down below it), providing all the features of the current timeline boxes.   Though this would be a "bonus", they could also be a relative distance from each other (with distance exponentially curved, not linearly, since massive time jumps would create mile long timelines lol).  

How does this feature request address the current situation?

It would dramatically improve the overall density of events, overall readability, show the context, and still provide click through to all the same level of details and content.  

What are other uses for this feature request?

No idea ... it is fairly localized to the improvement of Timeline. I have not seen the Chronos beta and I am not fully aware of it's functions, but perhaps there will be some overlap.   ... also I have no idea if these images I'm trying to attach will work ... lol ... fingers crossed.      

Follow up


... the images worked twice ... and I messed up the title lol ... well lessons learned :)
To the note: "That might work for a timeline with 5000 years but that is pretty much it. Any actually long timeline will become impossible." I address this ... if you have an exponential scaling of time to distance, A: it all becomes relative, based on the number of total events, not the total ... so a 1 billion year timeline with 10 events, is the same length as a 1 year timeline with 10 events ... and B: the distances are relational based on that, and the larger the time gaps = the smaller the relative size of the gap ... it's a very simple thing to ensure that all timelines have a relative max gap/range and adjust all spacing accordingly.   In short, it would work exactly the same regardless of total time length. In fact the time length is the least relevant factor.
... responding to tjtrewin ... "I'd love the ability to embed mini, condensed timelines into articles much like how your mockup looks, or even a simple list." I hadn't thought of this, but that would be brilliant for sure!
UPDATE! I think that even with the release of chronicles, these features would still be welcome and useful ... it's certainly less of a concern, but I feel like without the changes I'm suggesting, the existing timeline becomes effectively pointless (which was perhaps, and not unjustifiably, one of the goals of chronicles).
Dimitri - I have some thoughts on the questions you raised, but I thought this post was getting long enough, and I didn't want to bog down in actual design details. let me know if you feel like a chat about the behaviour

The Team's Response

The idea is not bad, there are a lot of considerations and issues not addressed here like, how and when do we show the full details and what happens if you have multiple events within the same Year or god forbid day.   I am accepting this as a RESEARCH & DISCUSSION
Current score

38/300 Votes · +7106 points

Votes Cast

  • +300

    by ClarissaGosling
    on 2022-06-22 06:58
  • +100

    by DaCoSaNa
    on 2022-06-20 20:19
  • +100

    by thatoneboiuknow
    on 2022-06-14 17:51
  • +300

    by Bladeswillfall
    on 2022-06-13 16:37
    Really like this idea, personally haven't used timelines yet as I'm not happy with how they function - a great feature, but not yet one I want to utilise just yet. Melior (TJ) has managed to create an amazing timeline, but even then... I'm hoping with future updates, Chronicles will nail exactly what I'm looking for.   +1 to SpecterN7's point about a hover/on-click event to have details expand
  • +300

    by hcraven
    on 2022-06-13 16:12
  • +300

    by Ben Mobley
    on 2022-06-11 21:34
  • +300

    by SpecterN7
    on 2022-06-11 17:07
    Personally, I would like having the collapsed events spread apart relative to the time gaps between events. I think a hover/on click event over the events would be the best way to have full details displayed.
  • +300

    by BethSea13
    on 2022-06-11 02:15
  • +100

    by A Lusty Mlem
    on 2022-06-10 15:54
  • +300

    by Unier
    on 2022-06-10 11:18
  • +100

    by scholarmage
    on 2022-06-08 11:20
    Being able to limit timeline displays to headings which drop open when clicked would be superb for visibility, and quickly finding events in long timelines.
  • +300

    by Mara Jaena
    on 2022-06-08 04:25
  • +100

    by PrincessESH
    on 2022-06-08 03:20
  • +1

    by Cloudcitytopia
    on 2022-06-08 00:08
  • +300

    by danieln
    on 2022-06-08 00:04
  • +300

    by zalzabar
    on 2022-06-07 12:23
  • +300

    by sclark99
    on 2022-06-07 11:30
  • +300

    by Exnil
    on 2022-06-07 09:15
  • +300

    by mastergentleman
    on 2022-06-07 03:15
  • +1

    by maintolomeo
    on 2022-06-06 22:45
  • +100

    by Red5Phil
    on 2022-06-06 22:01
  • +300

    by Squanto
    on 2022-06-06 14:45
  • +300

    by kaiohon
    on 2022-06-05 19:09
  • +300

    by Ononomad
    on 2022-06-05 17:48
  • +100

    by NovaTerra
    on 2022-06-05 17:27
  • +1

    by A Enfeebled Goblin
    on 2022-06-05 13:56
  • +300

    by Soigims
    on 2022-06-05 04:57
  • +1

    by A Goodhearted Unicorn
    on 2022-06-04 20:14
  • +300

    by Infected Magic
    on 2022-06-04 19:50
    I like the idea of collapsible timeline entries, but the spacing between entries relative to each other by years I think will make timelines bigger then 5000+ years really bloated.
  • +100

    by Starlocke
    on 2022-06-04 08:50
  • +300

    by A Fierce Skeleton
    on 2022-06-04 05:42
  • +1

    by Scalenex
    on 2022-06-03 22:47
  • +1

    by tjtrewin
    on 2022-06-03 14:28
    +1 I'd love the ability to embed mini, condensed timelines into articles much like how your mockup looks, or even a simple list.   I'll be using chronos for all of my large timelines but this would be a nice addition for article presentations.
  • +100

    by Tijmuhn
    on 2022-06-03 12:34
  • +100

    by A Cute Unicorn
    on 2022-06-03 11:52
    Though the mock-up looks great I'm not sure how well scaling works on a larger timeline of thousands, tens of thousands, or even millions of years, especially if a timeline has gaps of a few years and several centuries. But the collapsed events look nice, I think, and definitely makes the timeline more... uh. readable, I guess is the English word? Being able to see more of it in one look is nice. But admittedly I also haven't seen anything from Chronos so that may well be implemented or planned already.
  • +300

    by ss2020
    on 2022-06-03 05:35
  • -300

    by A Fierce Elf
    on 2022-06-03 04:21
    That might work for a timeline with 5000 years but that is pretty much it. Any actually long timeline will become impossible.
  • +100

    by Ratha
    on 2022-06-03 03:38
  • +300

    by Logan Mountain
    on 2022-06-02 17:47