Difference between specific and general for articles
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Difference between specific and general for articles
Feature Upgrade · Articles & templates · Created by Wingshaw
declined
What functionality is missing?
Many article templates are currently designed to be used to describe both an individual object, as well as a class of object. For example, if I am writing about a specific vehicle belonging to my characters (say, the LZ 129 Hindenburg) there is a prompt in which I can specify what class of vehicle it is (Hindenburg-class airship). However the linked class article is the exact same template as the individual vehicle template.
It stands to reason that a different set of prompts are required to describe a class of vehicle from the specific vehicle. A specific vehicle has a date of construction, a manufacturer, an owner, a date of destruction, and so forth. A class of vehicle has different properties, such as inventor, patent, propulsion.
This same issue exists with other article templates: buildings (perhaps I want to describe a particular fortification, or maybe I want to describe a type of fortification belonging to X culture), items (a specific necklace, or a type of necklace), settlements, etc.
The suggestion
The suggestion is simple but not easy: separate article templates into both a definite and indefinite form, and offer separate prompts for each.
How does this feature request address the current situation?
Having article templates separated into definite/indefinite will streamline the creation of articles by allowing users to only consider the prompts that are relevant to that article. By having an indefinite category (the class of vehicle/building/item etc.), the user can describe all the vehicles of that type more easily, without having to include it in each individual article.
Caveat
I know that this suggestion is quite a big change, and would involve a lot of work. I therefore expect it might generate some discussion. I also know that there has been a similar suggestion made previously and declined (https://www.worldanvil.com/community/voting/suggestion/ea492fc9-e434-4be4-ae66-1a9c19b13a57/view). I do believe, however, that my suggestion gives this a more concrete direction to follow.
Many article templates are currently designed to be used to describe both an individual object, as well as a class of object. For example, if I am writing about a specific vehicle belonging to my characters (say, the LZ 129 Hindenburg) there is a prompt in which I can specify what class of vehicle it is (Hindenburg-class airship). However the linked class article is the exact same template as the individual vehicle template.
It stands to reason that a different set of prompts are required to describe a class of vehicle from the specific vehicle. A specific vehicle has a date of construction, a manufacturer, an owner, a date of destruction, and so forth. A class of vehicle has different properties, such as inventor, patent, propulsion.
This same issue exists with other article templates: buildings (perhaps I want to describe a particular fortification, or maybe I want to describe a type of fortification belonging to X culture), items (a specific necklace, or a type of necklace), settlements, etc.
The suggestion
The suggestion is simple but not easy: separate article templates into both a definite and indefinite form, and offer separate prompts for each.
How does this feature request address the current situation?
Having article templates separated into definite/indefinite will streamline the creation of articles by allowing users to only consider the prompts that are relevant to that article. By having an indefinite category (the class of vehicle/building/item etc.), the user can describe all the vehicles of that type more easily, without having to include it in each individual article.
Caveat
I know that this suggestion is quite a big change, and would involve a lot of work. I therefore expect it might generate some discussion. I also know that there has been a similar suggestion made previously and declined (https://www.worldanvil.com/community/voting/suggestion/ea492fc9-e434-4be4-ae66-1a9c19b13a57/view). I do believe, however, that my suggestion gives this a more concrete direction to follow.
The Team's Response
This suggestion did not reach the required number of votes during its voting period This will lead to a massive number of templates for little to no gain that will make it harder to navigate and find what you want. In addition this would have made article connectivity a nightmare to manage.
Current score
44/300 Votes · +5400 points
Votes Cast
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+300
by starfro67
on 2021-07-09 00:09 -
+10
by Evi105
on 2021-07-08 18:49 -
+300
by Shonuff
on 2021-07-08 00:34 -
+50
by RTralidas
on 2021-07-06 14:51 -
+100
by Vulthuryol
on 2021-07-05 17:15 -
+10
by zarazandra
on 2021-07-05 14:23 -
+100
by kylocore
on 2021-07-05 00:19 -
+50
by Pookas Kreations
on 2021-07-04 16:42 -
+300
by Herasoul3
on 2021-07-04 03:42 -
+100
by Redcollarwolf
on 2021-07-04 01:27 -
+300
by ChroniclesofEvalaw
on 2021-07-02 17:12 -
+200
by Orion3
on 2021-07-02 13:45 -
+100
by The Talespinner
on 2021-06-29 14:47 -
+10
by Verdux Xudrev
on 2021-06-29 04:33 -
+10
by Op1999
on 2021-06-28 17:15 -
+10
by DarkhorseMB
on 2021-06-28 17:05 -
+100
by PrincessESH
on 2021-06-25 17:47I agree with T_WA. Rather than having entirely new templates, I think that adding a new tab to the existing templates would be the best bet.
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+50
by raptorbricks
on 2021-06-25 12:42 -
+300
by agro
on 2021-06-25 10:12 -
+300
by Carl-Heinz Langley
on 2021-06-25 05:42 -
+100
by A Enfeebled Velociraptor
on 2021-06-24 08:28 -
+200
by noot da noot
on 2021-06-23 16:18 -
-10
by ka_jan
on 2021-06-23 12:44 -
+300
by T_WA
on 2021-06-23 06:48I see the point, though I think a different solution might be more appropriate: instead of having separate templates entirely - which would lead to way too many templates, to be honest -, I think it would be more productive to just implement different categories of prompts in each template, these categories being first specific prompts then general prompts. As prompts already are divided in different tabs, I think this shouldn't prove to be an issue, even if it is still possibly quite some work to implement the prompts.
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+20
by Zarvinn
on 2021-06-22 14:36 -
+300
by AJ Smith
on 2021-06-22 12:55 -
+50
by RatTaster
on 2021-06-22 03:07 -
+20
by LoneGirl88
on 2021-06-21 13:27 -
+100
by Rashkavar
on 2021-06-21 04:18 -
+200
by GingerBread125
on 2021-06-21 04:00 -
+300
by arlj11
on 2021-06-21 03:34Adding a definite/indefinite functionality would be a great help when it comes to the multitude of fields some templates have.
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+300
by Valasania
on 2021-06-20 16:44Oh, that's actually my old article linked. How lovely lol. I greatly support this kind of suggestion - this one is much better articulated than mine, and explains the challenges associated with it quite well. For my part I think that the payoff would be worth it if it improves the overall quality of the article system.
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-50
by A Fluffy Dimensional Horror
on 2021-06-20 16:26 -
+300
by Rahjar
on 2021-06-20 13:28 -
+10
by Lenosallose
on 2021-06-20 13:02 -
-300
by Michael Chandra
on 2021-06-20 08:21I think this would be a horrible clutter of categories, and would really mess with articles that have prompts linking to other articles. Now if you said 'split the prompts into 3 types, definite/indefinite/both, and let me toggle which ones to show', that'd be an entirely different story. But the way you're suggesting this, would require a massive overhaul which does not seem worth it to me.
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+300
by Raven Gladstone
on 2021-06-20 02:35 -
+10
by Wingedcat13
on 2021-06-19 18:34 -
+10
by KajetanWrites
on 2021-06-19 18:13 -
+50
by trainhighway
on 2021-06-19 13:30 -
+20
by i666psyco
on 2021-06-19 10:08 -
+50
by NatB5989
on 2021-06-19 09:19 -
+100
by tophertalks
on 2021-06-19 08:55 -
+20
by MarkusD
on 2021-06-19 08:08 -
+300
by Wingshaw
on 2021-06-19 07:58
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