The garden was on the roof and had roses and other plants of perfect caliber. I ask about thin bloods and we discussed my research into undead roses. She handed me a rose and her business card, saying "Take a look at this". I noticed then that there was blood magic involved with all the plants. I tell her I'd have to invite her to see my garden someday in the future. Berko and John waited outside for me for hours while I spent time with Hope. When I got out we left and John took us home.