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Possibility to show distant relatives in the family tree

Feature Upgrade · Family trees · Created by NovaTerra
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family tree

What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

  (Sorry for the poor drawing skills)

At the moment it is not possible to show distant relatives in the family tree and in the characters. As an example, I have 3 characters here. A and B, who both lived between the years 0 and 100 and C, who is a known relative born in the year 1000. Currently, if a connection is to be displayed in the family tree, there are only the following options.
1. create the whole family
2. create an empty character as a link
3. the ancestors are indicated as parents in the character.

All of them are unfortunately not satisfying.

My suggestion would be a new field in Relationships of the characters. Any number of characters from whom the character is not directly descended can be entered here. These are then indicated in the family tree with a dotted line. The connection between A and B could then be found out by spouses connection.  

How does this feature request address the current situation?

It would allow a simple connection between distant relatives.

The Team's Response

This feature request had a very misleading title that caused a lot of people to upvote, but the description is diametrically different to the request itself.   Regardless, there is an update coming for Family trees that will allow a more expanded tree to be shown (which is how most of the people I asked interpreted the title as). Creating arbitrary long distance connections will not be part of the update since the suggestion visually might be possible but hierarchically cannot be implemented. and will cause major problems when someone will try to add something in between those two somewhat related connections.   The Bloodlines type of Family tree is capable of showing a connection like that clearly but it will need to have the in betweenness.
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135/300 Votes · +28092 points

Votes Cast

  • +300

    by MaximusErebus
    on 2022-05-20 23:14

  • +300

    by aetherith
    on 2022-05-20 19:33

  • +100

    by Myrmadon
    on 2022-05-20 15:28

  • +300

    by Soigims
    on 2022-05-20 06:15

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    by danieln
    on 2022-05-20 01:33

  • +300

    by Rustydragons262
    on 2022-05-19 15:38
    I would also suggest something like an undefined or secret relationship to connect characters in family trees. Like there is a relation between them but it's left undisclosed.

  • +300

    by A Lusty T-Rex
    on 2022-05-19 14:10

  • +300

    by A Wild Elf
    on 2022-05-18 23:49

  • +300

    by Carshand
    on 2022-05-18 04:19

  • +300

    by ano19920
    on 2022-05-17 23:20

  • +300

    by Celestial Lion
    on 2022-05-17 22:38

  • +100

    by morganarcher
    on 2022-05-17 22:12

  • +100

    by ElbyMA
    on 2022-05-17 20:00

  • +300

    by SpidersFace
    on 2022-05-17 18:10

  • +300

    by Mushrunes
    on 2022-05-17 03:46

  • +300

    by A Sneaky Unicorn
    on 2022-05-17 00:22

  • +1

    by Alonicus
    on 2022-05-16 23:43

  • +1

    by wickeli
    on 2022-05-15 21:01

  • +300

    by The_Lizard_King
    on 2022-05-15 14:38

  • +100

    by SparkBlakintine
    on 2022-05-15 10:32

  • +300

    by DM_RobC
    on 2022-05-15 04:17

  • +300

    by Nuclear-Weasel
    on 2022-05-15 02:08
    I think I'd use family trees a lot more if this was an option!

  • +300

    by Bartandules
    on 2022-05-15 01:25

  • +300

    by Carcan
    on 2022-05-14 23:30

  • +100

    by Pete Nelson
    on 2022-05-13 21:40

  • +100

    by eontheimmortal
    on 2022-05-13 21:33

  • +100

    by GaleForceW1nds
    on 2022-05-13 21:14

  • +300

    by TopTierGaming
    on 2022-05-13 16:22

  • +100

    by Sandwichh
    on 2022-05-13 07:08

  • +300

    by ThirdPlains
    on 2022-05-13 03:20

  • +300

    by careyhauthor
    on 2022-05-13 01:43

  • +300

    by penofdl
    on 2022-05-13 00:56

  • +300

    by FireAtWill
    on 2022-05-13 00:15

  • +20

    by Zalenknight
    on 2022-05-12 20:20

  • +300

    by Vogler
    on 2022-05-12 19:39

  • +300

    by 13Leagues
    on 2022-05-12 17:54

  • +300

    by LisaGrimm
    on 2022-05-12 11:10

  • +100

    by Exarx
    on 2022-05-12 10:53

  • +300

    by Ask_fulgrim
    on 2022-05-12 08:55
    This would actually solve an issue I'm having right now. I'm trying to make connections from historically and religiously important figures in history. And my options now are make loads of dummy articles making a entire family tree of empty characters. Or just not use the feature.

  • +100

    by Angbrennil
    on 2022-05-12 02:44

  • +300

    by amoreena
    on 2022-05-11 02:03

  • +200

    by Valorn
    on 2022-05-10 23:55

  • +100

    by clearlynotaspy
    on 2022-05-10 21:14

  • +20

    by ArtofGerald
    on 2022-05-10 21:10

  • +300

    by A Beloved Dimensional Horror
    on 2022-05-10 11:28

  • +300

    by Espen-Johansen
    on 2022-05-10 10:26

  • +300

    by Moondare
    on 2022-05-10 05:16

  • +300

    by A Mischievous T-Rex
    on 2022-05-10 04:56
    Definitely useful if you're working with intrigue and have a storyline focused on maybe an ursuper?

  • +300

    by MetagalacticLama
    on 2022-05-10 00:45

  • +200

    by illumiinae
    on 2022-05-09 20:41

  • +300

    by Writersblk
    on 2022-05-09 20:15

  • +300

    by Carelle
    on 2022-05-09 16:45

  • +300

    by tobias hart
    on 2022-05-09 16:31

  • +300

    by Virus X
    on 2022-05-09 14:40

  • +10

    by SoskaCream
    on 2022-05-09 14:12

  • +100

    by Asren
    on 2022-05-09 13:23

  • +50

    by AutomaJohn
    on 2022-05-09 07:56

  • +300

    by tjmichaels
    on 2022-05-09 06:59
    I like this idea if it can be used to create family trees where I DO NOT have to choose parents. For example, I have a family where I'm only going back two or three generations. I start with the parents of a character but don't want to include the parents of the parents. Maybe this is already possible but the instructions for family trees clearly states that you must include parents. In my case, I don't want to.

  • +10

    by A Frightened Dwarf
    on 2022-05-09 03:13

  • +100

    by Luciel Fairy
    on 2022-05-08 20:17

  • +300

    by Wiltof
    on 2022-05-08 20:16

  • +300

    by pecawolf
    on 2022-05-08 17:47

  • +100

    by B_Sylphaen
    on 2022-05-08 16:53

  • +50

    by MisguidedSanity
    on 2022-05-08 15:02

  • +300

    by Fredegar
    on 2022-05-08 12:55

  • +300

    by synthosomatic
    on 2022-05-08 10:51

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    by A Rambunctious Mlem
    on 2022-05-08 03:31

  • +300

    by LucasDLK
    on 2022-05-07 19:37

  • +100

    by TheBeauCanadian
    on 2022-05-07 18:18

  • +100

    by Geneticwolf
    on 2022-05-07 17:54
    This would be amazing and really helpful, with how open it is on timelines it would be a great addition.

  • +300

    by MrBauta
    on 2022-05-07 17:26

  • +300

    by gnjcksn
    on 2022-05-07 17:15

  • +200

    by jmckendry
    on 2022-05-07 16:12

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    by Aldebaran Aventus
    on 2022-05-07 16:10

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    by ATM82
    on 2022-05-07 15:16

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    by Eldorion
    on 2022-05-06 19:44

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    by Scyoni
    on 2022-05-06 18:38

  • +100

    by Goddess_Of_Luck
    on 2022-05-06 13:29

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    by Polyduces
    on 2022-05-06 12:41

  • +100

    by Fyre_
    on 2022-05-06 11:34

  • +300

    by A Thundering Dimensional Horror
    on 2022-05-06 09:13

  • +300

    by ReaverArklight
    on 2022-05-05 19:59

  • +300

    by darthkenobi2010
    on 2022-05-05 18:17

  • +100

    by yuno639
    on 2022-05-05 16:13

  • +100

    by Fat Boy Kyle
    on 2022-05-05 15:54

  • +100

    by Nezera
    on 2022-05-05 12:16

  • +300

    by Bloody_Oleander
    on 2022-05-05 04:50

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    by moonmasters
    on 2022-05-04 23:20

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    by sluedis
    on 2022-05-04 21:12

  • +300

    by Strawbelbadude
    on 2022-05-04 21:03

  • +100

    by Amanda Barylski
    on 2022-05-04 18:18

  • +300

    by A Goodhearted Elf
    on 2022-05-04 13:25

  • +100

    by Walicia
    on 2022-05-04 10:58

  • +300

    by Dunnxx
    on 2022-05-04 03:13

  • +50

    by DiggerTheDwarf
    on 2022-05-04 02:24

  • +10

    by SilverSeraph
    on 2022-05-03 21:56

  • +300

    by A Adorable Unicorn
    on 2022-05-03 20:11

  • +300

    by Careen Ligh
    on 2022-05-03 20:01

  • +200

    by Writing Bishop
    on 2022-05-03 18:40

  • +100

    by IdleMonochrome
    on 2022-05-03 16:03

  • +300

    by BunnyMoss
    on 2022-05-03 15:17

  • +300

    by DMFW
    on 2022-05-03 11:32

  • +100

    by SpencerH23
    on 2022-05-02 16:48

  • +100

    by Cpl.Soletrain
    on 2022-05-02 13:46

  • +100

    by Rayna Fairbell
    on 2022-05-02 08:54

  • +50

    by Arlatius
    on 2022-05-02 01:01

  • +300

    by Silviooooooo
    on 2022-05-01 19:53

  • +10

    by Furiousbunnies
    on 2022-05-01 17:02

  • +50

    by pyrrha
    on 2022-05-01 15:27

  • +100

    by A Fluffy Dwarf
    on 2022-05-01 11:44

  • +20

    by A Fluffy Mlem
    on 2022-05-01 09:49

  • +300

    by A Cute Hobbit
    on 2022-05-01 08:54

  • +300

    by Vexey
    on 2022-05-01 05:14

  • +50

    by A Mischievous Kobold
    on 2022-05-01 00:08

  • +50

    by Ratha
    on 2022-04-30 23:49

  • +300

    by A Lusty Bananafolk
    on 2022-04-30 23:09

  • +300

    by Buzzard
    on 2022-04-30 18:41
    Great suggestion. I could get a lot of use out of this feature.

  • +300

    by theaaronw0
    on 2022-04-30 10:44

  • +100

    by A Uncontrollable Dragon
    on 2022-04-30 09:44

  • +20

    by Adcheryl
    on 2022-04-30 09:43

  • +300

    by A Uncontrollable Unicorn
    on 2022-04-30 07:52
    Part of the reason why I never used the family tree feature is because I couldn't find a satisfying way to have ancestors represented. For my world-building purposes, creating the entire family between the (historically/plot important) ancestors and the current POV characters that were born 8-10 generations later is overkill and a distraction from the relevant world-building I should be focusing on. This suggestion would allow me to input a family tree that reflects the level of world-building I need for my goals, while still allowing me to easily fill in any other family members I might suddenly need to create later on in between the ancient ancestors and the current generation. I hope this suggestion is accepted!

  • +300

    by Scalenex
    on 2022-04-30 07:16
    I'm not sure if this is already in the works, but I'll still put coins on this because it's a function I would be delighted to have access to.

  • +200

    by Mme88
    on 2022-04-30 06:53

  • +100

    by ss2020
    on 2022-04-30 02:43

  • +20

    by storyauthor
    on 2022-04-30 02:42

  • +100

    by RiverFang
    on 2022-04-30 02:34

  • +300

    by LadyVann
    on 2022-04-30 01:29

  • +100

    by Tijmuhn
    on 2022-04-29 22:58

  • -300

    by UnknownWriter88
    on 2022-04-29 22:38
    Pretty sure something like this is already in the works.

  • +200

    by AuraGuard
    on 2022-04-29 22:18

  • +200

    by Charlotte and Clara
    on 2022-04-29 20:55

  • +300

    by PhntmDrgn
    on 2022-04-29 19:59
    Labeling it as an Ancestor would be great. As a possible implementation it could be… If a parent exists, don’t do anything different; If no parent is indicated, draw a dotted line to the Ancestor. Drawing lines to both parents and ancestors could get messy.

  • +300

    by BARON229
    on 2022-04-29 18:30

  • +300

    by ddaniel
    on 2022-04-29 18:11
    OH MY GOD how have I never thought of this, I even have characters that need this. Plop it next to sibling / spouse maybe as "ancestor"

  • +300

    by A Adorable Velociraptor
    on 2022-04-29 17:25
    I would love this feature especially for custom campaigns such as ones that my players have started families and or bastard children of kings built in the 5e Fearun system.

  • +300

    by NovaTerra
    on 2022-04-29 15:42

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