Follow up

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  by Tyrdal
  on 2024-04-04 20:10

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  by CrazyEddie
  on 2024-04-04 20:07

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  by Jacob-W
  on 2024-04-04 20:01

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  by FinalLegacy
  on 2024-04-03 18:10

• +1

  by SebGreg732
  on 2024-04-02 22:17

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  by Inusitatus
  on 2024-04-01 06:19

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  by PrincessESH
  on 2024-03-31 01:03

  Makes sense to me. I avoid using "the" in the beginning of my article titles to avoid this problem, but I'd rather not have to! The title of the article isn't just for the codex, it also appears at the very top of the article. Sometimes you want that header to have a "the" or a "House of" in the beginning. A completely different solution would be to allow the article's main header to be editable separate from the article's title within the article list, but that's a different feature suggestion altogether.

• +100

  by Squiggletag
  on 2024-03-24 15:43

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  by Those2Nerds
  on 2024-03-20 01:34

  While I generally agree with trying to exclude the/a/an/etc. in titles, there are times when it's simply unavoidable. The title of prose or plot, or the name of a character or event, are prime examples.   WA obviously can't keep a list of every word in every language to ignore when alphabetizing, but there are alternatives. In addition to what you and others have suggested, there could be an alternative display name field similar to the alternative date field for historical events.

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  by Ramzar51
  on 2024-03-19 12:07

  I see where you’re coming from. To make this more useful for other languages, however, it would probably be better to have an option to manually mark words or parts of words that can be ignored by the sorting engine (although Idk how complicated this would be to implement from a technical perspective).

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  by ohheyrene
  on 2024-03-19 03:24

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  by WriterV
  on 2024-03-17 19:19

  I think this feature would be hard to implement, but I feel like criticism is unfairly Anglo-centric. Latin and most of its descendants can't drop their article without looking weird or childish. Same with many other languages. This is a serious concern and should be taken seriously.

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  by WeStanNikolai
  on 2024-03-17 18:35

  I am deeply confused about the reaction this post is getting...? This is a great suggestion in my opinion, and boyo, the autolinker is already confused in everything that's not English xD And even there, irregular changes to words already pose problems: You have a group of spies called the Kingsmen, but want to write "He is a kingsman."? Newsflash, Autolink doesn't recognize the word.   As a German worldbuilder, I support this suggestion and would love to see it implemented, if possible. Der, Die, Das and all their forms a confusing enough.   And to the point themrbeasley made: I am glad for encyclopedias and academic writing and their way of getting around this, but that might not be everyones style? If you want to style your articles like... entries of a diary, maybe, they won't follow the same style guide as an encyclopedia.   Let people live and design their worlds as they please :)

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  by A Fluffy Dimensional Horror
  on 2024-03-15 20:31

  I completely understand where you’re coming from and your frustration, but simple dropping the “the” has worked wonders for me, both in appearances for my worlds and organization purposes. If all else fails, writing “Mason, The” has worked for me. This seems like it would be a pain to implement and not entirely useful for most people judging from prior responses. Sorry to downvote, I’d just rather see the team work on less convoluted things that are harder for us to fix on our own.

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  by DMFW
  on 2024-03-15 16:09

  At the risk of muddying the water still further, rather than getting into all the complexities of skipping N words with all the associated logical complexities for coding, wouldn't a nice (relatively) simple and clean alternative but to just have a separate sort field for an article which defaults to its name? If you want to sort it differently it becomes the responsibility of the article owner to amend that field. Not only can you drop "The" but any complex edge cases or multiple words can be dealt with in whatever way the article owner likes without making life complicated for the programmers. As an article owner you'd have full control of the sort order. As the programmer you just sort on the sort field using whatever it is populated with (defaulted to the name)? There are some things that need thinking about to implement this, like what happens to the sort field if the article name is changed (I say nothing, the user has to change it manually) but it seems to get around many problems.

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  by tjtrewin
  on 2024-03-15 13:38

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  by A Frightened Dwarf
  on 2024-03-15 01:07

  I am in agreement with TheMrBeasley. Best to get out of the habit of prefacing with "The" in most instances.

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  by A Lusty Orc
  on 2024-03-14 21:34

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  by themrbeasley
  on 2024-03-14 17:43

  Encyclopedia entries are usually organized alphabetically. Starting each entry with a definite or indefinite article could disrupt the alphabetical ordering. For instance, if every entry starting with "The" were listed under "T," it would not only be cumbersome but also inefficient for readers searching for specific information.   Many style guides and editorial standards specifically advise against using articles at the beginning of titles or headings unless they are part of a proper noun or a quotation. This convention is widely adopted in various forms of academic and reference writing, not just encyclopedias.   Beginning your titles this way can also confuse the Autolinker feature.   Bad form all around, change the way you title pages rather than the whole website. While it may make sense within a page's content to talk about how a thing is referred to colloquially (which may include the article, such as The Batman vs Batman), the title is not where you make that distinction for the reason noted here.

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  by Scalenex
  on 2024-03-14 15:00

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  by Amancham
  on 2024-03-14 10:29

  While this would surely be awesome, I'm not sure, how this works with localization since there are different languages in use and having to programme it for all the languages sounds awful. Maybe if you could set up a list yourself for your world, that would work.

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  by KaiserWilliams
  on 2024-03-14 09:37