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Allow Organizations to serve as 'location' for NPC/PC/Item etc

Feature Upgrade · Articles & templates · Created by ringkvinna
declined

What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

  At current, the article system requires duplicate articles for things like Kingdoms. The above three things are all clearly best-served by the 'organization' template, but PCs, NPCs, Items, etc, cannot have their 'current location' set to these organizations, and must instead choose a 'location' templated article. 
If only the 'location: settlement' template is used, the Kingdom article will miss out on a large array of template boxes (currency, government system, judicial system etc) that are only offered in the 'organization' template.
Users wind up with duplicate articles for Kingdoms: 
  • one where one is the 'organization' template
  • one with 'location: settlement' template used by any article that can be set in a physical location

  • This is further hampered by the fact that the 'parent article' dropdown menu in the Navigation tab does not provide a distinction of mulitple named articles. So, 'Lyria' the 'organization' and 'Lyria' the 'location:settlement' both simply show up as 'Lyria' requiring either a guess or a name change. (this is in opposition to the in-article @ system where the type of template is shown in parentheticals)  

    How does this feature request address the current situation?

    These problems could be circumvented if:
  • organizations were allowed to serve as Locations for PCs, NPCs, Items, and other articles that can have physical geographical locations

  • OR
  • changing the type of 'location: settlement' template added the many extra fields for 'organization' (i.e. picking 'national territory' from the settlement type dropdown)
  • What are other uses for this feature request?

    • Mystical or magic items rumored to be in locations can have their articles as children under organizations, allowing viewers/readers/players to read about the place when they read about the item.

    The Team's Response

    Thanks for your suggestion! Organizations are never places, they are always groups of people—while an organization can have control over a place (e.g. a university has control over the university buildings), the place itself is not the organization. Therefore, this is declined. I recommend using custom key-value pairs in your sidebar instead: --KEY::VALUE--, for example: --Location::Your organization here---.
    Current score

    57/300 Votes · +11808 points

    Votes Cast

    • +1

      by restlessGalaxy
      on 2023-07-23 07:15
    • +100

      by TheTinyTyro
      on 2023-07-23 03:37
    • +300

      by CalebStrange
      on 2023-07-22 00:17
    • +300

      by Aiedail
      on 2023-07-21 14:07
    • +300

      by spidermilo
      on 2023-07-20 20:55
    • +1

      by MatriarchDacey
      on 2023-07-20 16:47
    • +300

      by ashensoul314
      on 2023-07-20 14:22
    • +100

      by Mackkey
      on 2023-07-20 06:57
    • +300

      by prestonthedm
      on 2023-07-19 15:32
    • +1

      by Roxic
      on 2023-07-19 10:06
    • +300

      by Jontaro
      on 2023-07-19 06:15
    • +1

      by lumina_sun
      on 2023-07-19 04:12
    • +300

      by ClarissaGosling
      on 2023-07-18 10:04
    • +1

      by Blossom Tree Art
      on 2023-07-18 01:21
    • +300

      by Darynu
      on 2023-07-17 19:37
    • +1

      by themrbeasley
      on 2023-07-17 16:26
      I think there should be a codex article about disambiguation pages, how to plan ahead for them, and how to implement them on the fly. Its something I've been considering doing. But, on the surface, I don't know if I fully agree on this solution. Maybe its more helpful than my idea, but it makes sense that you might need a disambiguation page to help readers find out about a building/landmark/settlement versus the organization which may share the same name. Especially since its common in colloquial English for lay people to conflate locations and organizations.
    • +100

      by Masha Medov
      on 2023-07-17 01:26
    • +300

      by ano19920
      on 2023-07-16 03:14
    • +1

      by A Adorable Devil
      on 2023-07-14 15:40
    • +100

      by LittleSister
      on 2023-07-14 09:21
    • +100

      by A Sneaky Bananafolk
      on 2023-07-13 10:54
    • +100

      by TheArchitectSol
      on 2023-07-13 05:46
    • +100

      by A Sunflower Raccoon
      on 2023-07-12 23:05
    • +100

      by LiaFelis
      on 2023-07-11 12:05
    • +300

      by phork37
      on 2023-07-11 00:16
    • +300

      by Fiovara
      on 2023-07-10 14:02
    • +300

      by Lakedus
      on 2023-07-10 12:22
    • +100

      by Galahad423
      on 2023-07-10 00:44
    • +300

      by JetpackMonkey
      on 2023-07-08 07:57
    • +300

      by kpomeroy
      on 2023-07-08 05:18
    • +300

      by reneeziel
      on 2023-07-07 22:40
    • +300

      by barriesaxxy
      on 2023-07-06 21:07
      I've struggled with this since joining WA: is my univeristy or my nation an organization or a location? I would love a system that better reflect that they fall into both categories (especially when selecting a location on a new article.)
    • +300

      by FalchionDelta
      on 2023-07-06 18:28
    • +100

      by SebGreg732
      on 2023-07-05 22:13
    • +100

      by AvalonArcana
      on 2023-07-05 15:02
    • +300

      by darthsuki
      on 2023-07-05 01:32
    • +300

      by Writing Bishop
      on 2023-07-04 15:47
    • +300

      by jglavz
      on 2023-07-04 14:53
    • +300

      by PoppaeaSabina
      on 2023-07-04 13:56
    • +300

      by Those2Nerds
      on 2023-07-04 13:53
      Some way to indicate an organization relates to a geographic area would be incredibly helpful. Timeline events might occur across a kingdom but not be "related" to the organization, and the auto-generated org charts would benefit from nesting cities beneath countries.
    • +100

      by A Lusty Hobbit
      on 2023-07-04 04:38
    • +300

      by IBB
      on 2023-07-03 18:41
    • +100

      by A Fierce Dryad
      on 2023-07-03 18:18
    • +300

      by Alishahr
      on 2023-07-03 15:26
    • +300

      by Willow H.R. Harper
      on 2023-07-03 08:12
    • +300

      by Slylock
      on 2023-07-03 03:50
    • +300

      by Scriptifex
      on 2023-07-03 02:15
    • +100

      by SiegeTank
      on 2023-07-02 22:31
    • +300

      by Scalenex
      on 2023-07-02 18:33
    • +300

      by Ratha
      on 2023-07-02 14:25
    • +300

      by Kuba13805
      on 2023-07-02 13:32
    • +300

      by A Cute Skeleton
      on 2023-07-02 11:50
    • +100

      by A Mischievous Kobold
      on 2023-07-02 09:53
    • +300

      by JoellaKay
      on 2023-07-02 05:14
    • +100

      by that_guy04
      on 2023-07-02 00:46
    • +300

      by A Fluffy Cthulhu
      on 2023-07-01 23:31
    • +1

      by Rilameth
      on 2023-07-01 22:28
    • +300

      by ringkvinna
      on 2023-07-01 19:55