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Export of a full world as PDF

Feature Upgrade · World management · Created by Saheyus
declined
export -pdf compatibility

What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?

  The current export, as an archive with folders with HTML/JSON, is complex to navigate. Notably, AI can struggle to navigate in such an archive, if they can at all.

How does this feature request address the current situation?

  An export of all the articles as a single PDF document would greatly simplify data management. It is also a common format for writers and scenarists that would improve compatibility with others applications or simple storing of a world.

What are other uses for this feature request?

For the specific AI use case, on ChatGPT, for example, it would allow providing a whole world as a single simple to use document.

Follow up


Additionaly, an exported PDF would allow a very efficient global research.
To clarify about the questions raised until now :
  • "Why not have both?" : The suggestion of adding PDF export does not imply suppressing the current export options, in any way. These methods are complementary.
  • "How would you even export it?" : I suggest using the simplest method, which would probably close to web browsers native functionalities of PDF export. Anyone can test it on a single article with ctrl + P and selection of the PDF printing option. Of course, this format does not respect CSS, portraits would be placed at the end of the article, etc. However, the aesthetic could be an additional functionality to request later, if deemed necessary. This is a simple suggestion, the devs of World Anvil could probably answer the question of technical feasibility much better than me.
  • CSS specific case : Please note that the current HTML export does not export CSS (nor the pictures, or the chronologies). You may consider asking the HTML export improvement if you consider the subject important.
  • "subscriber groups, members, privacy settings" : This is not the matter here, and these cannot be rendered in the current html export either.
  • The Team's Response

    Hi! Thanks for this suggestion. However, we need to decline it, as we are an online publishing platform, not a physical printing software. There is a lot of complexity beyond our scope that comes with generating properly formatted PDFs based on World Anvil worlds, which frequently use very advanced formatting.   I also wanted to take a moment to answer to some of the specific concerns in this suggestion:
    • If you want an export to integrate it with ChatGPT, AIs of this type shouldn't have major issues with reading basic HTML files, which can already be exported (and as far as I know, ChatGPT includes options to read webpages for their subscription tiers, which might be useful for this too).
    • If the goal is to access your content offline, this is possible too. Go to your world settings (from the gear button at the bottom) and reveal advanced options on the right to find the exporter. Your Guild level will affect the type of export you get, but you will get a full export of all articles regardless of that.
    • Finally, if the goal is to have print-friendly versions of articles, that's already possible too. Edit an article, open advanced tools on the right, and use the "Print/Export" button under "Special Actions". As long as you don't use advanced CSS customization, this will generate a print-friendly HTML page.
    Current score

    114/300 Votes · +19508 points

    Votes Cast

    • +300

      by Ragnharok
      on 2023-12-11 04:22
    • +300

      by TheRoyalCaesar
      on 2023-12-11 04:02
    • +1

      by Observer of the Stars
      on 2023-12-10 20:20
    • +300

      by Rollbad
      on 2023-12-10 16:42
    • +1

      by yukitoru
      on 2023-12-10 08:19
    • +300

      by EJ_Lowe
      on 2023-12-09 11:28
    • +300

      by A Uncontrollable Hobbit
      on 2023-12-08 18:58
    • +300

      by Schmauch
      on 2023-12-08 17:31
    • +300

      by KazutoDM
      on 2023-12-08 15:50
    • +300

      by reddishbarron
      on 2023-12-08 15:17
      This is a great idea.
    • +300

      by PleasantPheasant77
      on 2023-12-08 13:09
    • -300

      by A Frightened Ooze
      on 2023-12-08 06:51
    • +300

      by GrassyHorizon
      on 2023-12-08 00:50
    • -300

      by bladesmoss
      on 2023-12-08 00:47
    • +300

      by iantojohn
      on 2023-12-07 22:55
    • +300

      by zunami
      on 2023-12-07 17:44
    • +300

      by Le maître du jeu
      on 2023-12-07 17:24
    • +100

      by pistachiomygod
      on 2023-12-07 06:20
    • +300

      by Shoobie
      on 2023-12-07 01:49
    • +300

      by Youngree
      on 2023-12-06 23:25
    • +1

      by Ser_Richard
      on 2023-12-06 19:50
    • +100

      by charuksuebrak
      on 2023-12-06 15:56
    • +300

      by yaky22
      on 2023-12-06 10:41
    • +300

      by hypnotoadie
      on 2023-12-06 06:49
    • +100

      by DesNordlund
      on 2023-12-05 21:19
      I agree that there might be a problem with exporting all straight off, but how about either an export working when convenient for the server, or limit the size? There is a nice use for a pdf export, and if you want to use it with any AI it is your call. (I get the impression that you want to train an AI on your world, which sounds interesting.)
    • -300

      by A Beloved Orc
      on 2023-12-05 20:37
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      by Ewicraft
      on 2023-12-05 09:38
    • +100

      by AlleriaPax
      on 2023-12-05 08:45
    • +100

      by Yamifox
      on 2023-12-05 01:52
    • +100

      by A Fierce Goblin
      on 2023-12-05 00:33
    • +100

      by Jah the God
      on 2023-12-05 00:04
    • +300

      by A Sneaky Hobbit
      on 2023-12-04 21:20
    • -100

      by A Cute T-Rex
      on 2023-12-04 18:22
      These could lead to absolutely massive PDFs, which would be a drain on the resources for managing the site to create.
    • +300

      by Wexley
      on 2023-12-04 18:14
    • +300

      by Juchas
      on 2023-12-04 17:59
    • +300

      by Jedu
      on 2023-12-04 17:35
    • +300

      by jackledead
      on 2023-12-04 04:33
    • +300

      by Grozo
      on 2023-12-04 02:51
    • +300

      by TheBearProphet
      on 2023-12-04 01:53
    • -300

      by SeeleyOne
      on 2023-12-03 21:27
      The goal is to make it more convenient for AI to steal your ideas? No thanks
    • +300

      by JaenJaenJaen
      on 2023-12-03 19:57
    • +300

      by Bluboram
      on 2023-12-03 18:33
    • +300

      by DJverne12
      on 2023-12-03 15:27
    • +100

      by adamnd
      on 2023-12-03 15:08
    • +1

      by Chrysochus
      on 2023-12-03 07:23
    • +300

      by TheDreamingGoat
      on 2023-12-03 04:44
    • +300

      by HaberkampClan
      on 2023-12-03 04:12
    • +300

      by GM Ryu
      on 2023-12-03 01:20
    • +1

      by Architrave Gaming
      on 2023-12-03 00:29
      More options are always better. Let us export to PDF, Word, etc. Why not?
    • +300

      by TrevPass1112
      on 2023-12-02 21:11
    • +300

      by JR Kenja
      on 2023-12-02 20:20
    • +300

      by Rayna Fairbell
      on 2023-12-02 15:24
    • +300

      by ReaperGaming29
      on 2023-12-02 15:10
    • +1

      by vvulf
      on 2023-12-02 12:19
    • +100

      by Lord Aldrath the Last
      on 2023-12-02 07:25
    • +300

      by Luna_Bruce
      on 2023-12-02 01:19
    • +100

      by SavageArtificer
      on 2023-12-01 23:49
    • +300

      by Galahad423
      on 2023-12-01 21:13
    • +300

      by Mournblade94
      on 2023-12-01 20:01
    • +100

      by DaisyChick
      on 2023-11-30 23:36
    • +300

      by justmander
      on 2023-11-30 22:06
    • +300

      by [email protected]
      on 2023-11-30 02:27
    • +100

      by TenMadSquirrels
      on 2023-11-29 21:30
    • +300

      by orphidor
      on 2023-11-29 02:42
    • +300

      by Deadpoet
      on 2023-11-29 00:25
    • +300

      by Phleanix
      on 2023-11-28 14:40
    • -300

      by NorseKnight
      on 2023-11-28 11:19
    • +300

      by Mr. Box
      on 2023-11-28 08:05
    • +300

      by KingDuckIV
      on 2023-11-27 20:35
    • -100

      by Amancham
      on 2023-11-27 16:35
    • +300

      by Teancumson
      on 2023-11-27 15:14
      I think there needs to be an option to export both individual pages or a whole world as a PDF. I am someone who doesn't always have access to the internet when I am writing so having an saved PDF would allow me to access my notes during those moments.
    • +100

      by Crafty_Dm
      on 2023-11-27 13:34
    • +100

      by MaconDavis03
      on 2023-11-27 12:58
    • -300

      by connor.phoenix
      on 2023-11-27 08:36
    • -300

      by A Roaring Kitten
      on 2023-11-27 04:14
      I see the draw of exporting an entire world into one PDF for simplicity and compatibility, but it seems a bit excessive and likely resource-intensive. Exporting individual pages as PDFs is a more straightforward approach. It's simple with most browsers and more accurate. Also, for AI training, using PDFs is a makeshift method for handling data outside the model. Models that are specifically fine-tuned and trained on our worlds are far more effective and precise, FWIW.
    • +100

      by BCGR_Wurth
      on 2023-11-26 19:09
    • +300

      by Careen Ligh
      on 2023-11-26 17:57
    • +300

      by Squash
      on 2023-11-26 07:43
    • +300

      by SorraTheOrc
      on 2023-11-26 02:57
    • +1

      by Malrik
      on 2023-11-26 02:29
    • +1

      by DT_11
      on 2023-11-25 19:54
    • +100

      by HandOfZion
      on 2023-11-25 14:27
    • +300

      by Zachori
      on 2023-11-25 07:44
    • +300

      by Goreface
      on 2023-11-24 05:59
    • +100

      by MKHETH II
      on 2023-11-24 05:01
      why not have both?
    • +300

      by donpedicinijr
      on 2023-11-24 00:43
    • +300

      by OilyBoiz
      on 2023-11-23 23:28
    • +100

      by Zorbic
      on 2023-11-23 21:23
    • +1

      by A Glamorous T-Rex
      on 2023-11-23 18:48
    • +100

      by A Uncontrollable Skeleton
      on 2023-11-23 17:25
    • -1

      by ss2020
      on 2023-11-23 15:56
      I have to agree with JoellaKay on all points. I would rather see just an Article to PDF, something on a much small scale.
    • +300

      by Brenpatine
      on 2023-11-23 06:10
    • +300

      by Lizzard15
      on 2023-11-22 23:35
    • +300

      by truenordicwolf
      on 2023-11-22 20:45
    • -1

      by JoellaKay
      on 2023-11-22 15:12
      I think that many worlds are much too large for a single PDF. Then, there's the complexity of handling the images and the css. And do you download it as it appears (some info in the database may not be displayed because of css and other things) or try to put all the data in the PDF? I'd rather the developers spend their time on other features we're waiting for.
    • +300

      by holyyeda
      on 2023-11-22 15:02
      World Anvil has been incredibly valuable for the creation of my dnd world, but I live in fear one day a random copyright law, or a simple error code will see the eradication of hours and hours of writing not just for me but for hundreds of other creatives. The ability to download a world as a simple PDF would make that fear evaporate, like saving a work project.
    • +100

      by EleKTriiK
      on 2023-11-22 12:39
    • +300

      by SirBoBeth
      on 2023-11-22 11:54
    • +1

      by antdwill
      on 2023-11-22 05:09
    • -300

      by shamrocklobster
      on 2023-11-21 20:06
      This feels like a thinly veiled excuse to make it easier to have AI write for you (which, I feel, is insulting to World Anvil's whole mantra of fostering creativity). Worlds have so much complexity that can only be held on the website (subscriber groups, members, css styling, privacy settings), and it would be impossible or ridiculous to convert this to pdf, especially if you want AI to be able to read it. If you want to use AI to literally write for you, you should be willing to do the bare minimum of copy-pasting your text.
    • +100

      by Slinkadath
      on 2023-11-21 19:41
    • +100

      by braxleed
      on 2023-11-21 18:50
    • +300

      by Johe
      on 2023-11-21 18:08
    • +300

      by packetpirate
      on 2023-11-21 17:25
    • +300

      by ProtestTheBread
      on 2023-11-21 14:47
    • +300

      by HunterChristmas1247
      on 2023-11-21 00:06
    • +100

      by BlueJay2134
      on 2023-11-20 22:28
    • -1

      by Michael Chandra
      on 2023-11-20 16:33
      How would you even export it? Mobile format? Render as if a specific width? What about subscriber groups? Complicated css?
    • +1

      by SebGreg732
      on 2023-11-20 14:48
    • +300

      by JetpackMonkey
      on 2023-11-20 14:41
    • -100

      by A Uncontrollable Dwarf
      on 2023-11-20 11:31
    • +100

      by A Sneaky T-Rex
      on 2023-11-20 09:12
    • +300

      by Piggie4299
      on 2023-11-20 02:56
    • +300

      by Chamoky101
      on 2023-11-19 23:55
    • +300

      by Saheyus
      on 2023-11-19 19:38