i think there are bugs being improved, and enhancement should make the experience better, but i think overall its a step in an ultimately better direction. Looking forward to ongoing fixes/enhancements.
These are bugs, not problems with the UI. Personally, I think the new UI is far less frustrating to write in, and previously I had to write in an external program then import that work into WA, so this is an improvement. However, I agree that these bugs are unacceptable and that the new design should have been more thoroughly tested before being rolled out.
I dislike the new editor ever since its release and it has been a key factor in my diminishing usage of the website. It has so many bugs it is become easier to just go back to good old pen and paper. These last days, I now get straight out "corrupted" articles. It doesn't matter how many times I refresh the page. If I log in or log out. The article can no longer be viewed or edited, so I am forced to delete it altogether. For now it is strictly new articles, but I dread the time it'll happen to a long, well-developped article.
New UI is a crappy shit! It totally unsusable, so I have to create patch scripts to change links in side menu to force them to lead to old athena and apollo pages!
I don't want to get rid of the New UI per say, but I do want it either quickly improved with elements of the Old interface or direct options for the Old UI to be set as my default.
Reverting WorldAnvil to the old editor for the time being and leaving stress testing the new editor to Alchemist testers (like seriously, where was the option to test this before? I'm part of the Alchemist testers, yet saw not a single hint of this new editor until it came out) would be better than what is currently being done. I've been a paying member since 2019, back when the article display would display the profile images of characters and such. There have been many changes since. Most have not been that disruptive, but this new article manager is causing dramatic interference with many peoples' workflows - you have Alchemist for user testing, you do not need to use your entire userbase for that purpose. The current execution has only been serving to destroy the goodwill WorldAnvil has built over the years, and destroy it hard and fast.
It did take me a bit to adjust to new UI and it is indeed buggy but it does have incredible potential at being usable by a wide spectrum of people. There is an option to use to the older version. Just like new software for programs like adobe, microsoft and the like, they too have their fair share of problems but the teams available to work on them could populate an entire small city. So be patient, the bugs will work out one by one as they are reported and updated.
"Stop listening to consultants who don't actually use your site" Exactly! They are getting their design direction from somewhere that ISN'T us! Stop fixing things that aren't broken. It doesn't need to be pretty, it needs to be functional!
It wouldn't have been so bad if this new UI was actually "done" instead of being released as a half-baked alternative while they were in the middle of making it. But the old interface is still superior in every way
The current UI does nothing but alienate WA's oldest and most active users. If they want it to act as a way to attract new users, that's fine, but it shouldn't come at the cost of UX for those of us who have literally given hundreds if not 1000+ dollars to this site since its launch. It NEEDS to be made opt-in for us.
Seriously considering cancelling my subscription when it appears that money is going on reinventing functional systems to make them worse, and yet bugs get ignored for months or never fixed.
I'm not saying get rid of the new UI entirely - I can see how it could be amazing. Once the new UI supports all existing features and stops lagging so intensely, I would even be fine with disregarding the old UI completely, if only to stop having to support both versions. However, the current state of the new UI looks fancy, but is very unusable for me because of lag, missing family tree features and so on. I am not at the point of considering ending my subscription yet, but considering the latest dev answers to similar requests I just don't understand what is going on. I can't follow the thought processes that led to this situation, and I am really devastated that so many people (including myself) have been having such a hard time with this site I love so much.
If the old UI is removed entirely I will consider other platforms as an option because this one has become very cumbersome to use. To the point that I feel the interface is getting in the way of me being able to be productive.
If the old UI is removed entirely, I'll likely seek alternative platforms.
The old system is superior in nearly every respect. At least give us the option to go back to it.
The new UI is terrible. At least let us use the old editor and don't do away with it. When it is completely done away with as planned, I'll likely save everything I've created here and cancel membership.
I agree. I really don't like the new interface. After using World Anvil for about 2 years, the sudden change really messed up my workflow, and a few features that I always used are suddenly displaced or renamed. Please allow an option to use the old interface.
My suggestion < ALLOW US TO SET OLD EDITOR AS DEFAULT > allows for those who do like the new UI to continue to use it, so that might be better for those wanting a middle ground here. However, I will upvote this fully because I personally don't like the new UI (I'm considering canceling my subscription if at least *something* isn't done about it in its current state), and from what I personally have seen, there are far more people who are struggling with the new UI than those who are benefiting from it. And by struggling, I mean massive computer issues such as browser crashes, forced resets, extreme lag, poor optimization across the board, the list goes on. And to be clear, these issues are NOT because of poor internet or old computers, as proven by myself and others. This is an optimization issue on WA's end that absolutely needs to be addressed. I know this sucks. I know the WA team worked really hard on this. But it's just not ready yet. And until the new UI reaches the amazingly usable level that the old UI achieved, I really don't see the purpose in "fixing" something that was fine the way it was.
It took me a long time to get used to the old interface. If I have to spend that time again learning a new interface, am I better off trying a different world builder?
Devs nuked an earlier post that was gaining alot of traction. Their response does not bode well. They apparently completely missed the point and text of the suggestion the OPTION to allow US the ANVILITES to set the old editor as default. Their response is exactly the same as I've seen in similar situations in the past: Don't like it, deal with it. I've seen this same song and dance before. It never ends well. Busybodies thinking they know whats best for us plebs. Enough.
Only dropping 100 toward this because I do like the new interface...but reading about a lot of things people have made using the older interface makes me want to suggest retaining that interface until the new one is more feature complete and bugs squashed. I'm new to WA, like a couple days new...and creating one timeline where Before Event Era counts down to 0, Event Occurs, After Event ERA begins counting up to current year is kind of a wildly painful mess. Its like someone thought the best way to handle the math was to just keep using escalating numbers but just change how they're displayed instead of making proper classes in the program to handle it. If I had that much of an irksome time with the Timeline system with one timeline and two Eras, with one counting backward and the other counting forward....I can imagine established worlds with a lot of content being a busted mess for people switching or trying to use the new UI mid build.
It is atrociously bad, I cant even fathom how it can be this bad if not intentional
« ALLOW US TO SET OLD EDITOR AS DEFAULT » suggestion sounds better to me as it allows people that enjoy the new UI to continue to do so.