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Allow the country article to have similar linking features to the location article

Feature Upgrade · Articles & templates · Created by cool_beans
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Currently in world anvil countries are classified under the organisation article, which makes sense as a country is a group of people in an area led by a government, however, countries are also places. they double as both an organisation and a location. For example, you can go to England as it is a place, and England can decide to make trade deals or allow immigrants or send troops to another country as it is also an organisation. The problem with the country article being solely under the organisation category is that it limits some of the things you can link to it, mainly being you cannot link a person,businesses, building,etc to the country they are located in. Without creating a separate location article with the same name as the country. Although this is a workaround it is certainly inconvenient and messy to do so. What I would like is for the country article to be able to be linked in the same way that location can be linked ie allowing to link that characters live in a country or that this species can be found here basically I want to be able to link people and things to the country they are from without having to make a separate article for it.

The Team's Response

Hello there! So, introduction aside I think that what you are asking is this:
What I would like is for the country article to be able to be linked in the same way that location can be linked ie allowing to link that characters live in a country or that this species can be found here basically I want to be able to link people and things to the country they are from without having to make a separate article for it.
  Which comes down to
  • A way to link a Character to an organizatin
  • A way to link a Species to an organization
  • The first one (Character > Organization) already exists under the Character template
  • AFFILIATED ORGANIZATION, PRIMARY
  • AFFILIATED ORGANIZATIONS, EXTENDED
  • The second one, (Species to Organization) does not. I am not sure how a species would belong to a Country, what is the actual idea here?
    If we are talking about animals, they definitely do not belong or inhabit only one country, for example anything from migratory birds (most extreme case) to even populations of grazing herbivores or packs of wolves or families of bears (or fish) regularly cross borders of countries (without passports if I might add "The perfidy" )
    If we are talking about sentient species like "The Elves live in Arvandor" kind of thing, sure, I can understand that, it's monolithic but understandable.   IF this is what you want please create another feature request so people can vote on it and be specific about the title name you are expecting, the suggestion was very open to interpretation and can mean a lot of different things to different people. (it goes without saying it hasn't reached any threshold )
    Current score

    56/300 Votes · +12270 points

    Votes Cast

    • +300

      by ano19920
      on 2022-05-17 23:32
      I like this because it takes away the part where I have both country-location AND country-organization articles. There's times I want the geographical sub-locations and there's times where I really just want "(COUNTRY)" and that's it.
    • +100

      by ionathas78
      on 2022-05-17 22:54
    • +300

      by Celestial Lion
      on 2022-05-17 22:32
    • +300

      by poindexter1985
      on 2022-05-16 13:10
    • +300

      by DreamonStudios
      on 2022-05-16 09:39
    • +300

      by Vryseyn
      on 2022-05-16 05:05
    • +300

      by wickeli
      on 2022-05-15 20:59
      Big struggle when trying to make Fuedal systems.
    • +100

      by A Enfeebled Dimensional Horror
      on 2022-05-15 16:48
    • +100

      by The_Lizard_King
      on 2022-05-15 14:39
    • +300

      by ZeitStorm
      on 2022-05-15 12:11
    • +100

      by SparkBlakintine
      on 2022-05-15 10:33
    • +300

      by DM_RobC
      on 2022-05-15 04:18
    • +300

      by Galahad423
      on 2022-05-14 19:30
      Can confirm this a major issue for Feudal systems in my experience. Counties, Duchies, Kingdoms, etc are all refer to a region, a title, and a political organization, and having duplicate pages for all three has resulted in a lot of confusion and unnecessary complication IMO
    • +100

      by SuppSandwich
      on 2022-05-13 21:56
    • +300

      by Pete Nelson
      on 2022-05-13 21:41
    • +300

      by MGatta
      on 2022-05-12 16:53
    • +100

      by imitationcamel
      on 2022-05-12 15:22
    • +300

      by MerlinRafiki
      on 2022-05-12 07:57
      I love the idea that a country, as an Organisation controls several locations and is not in itself a location. But I also struggle a lot with setting up duplicate Articles for Baronies, Counties, Duchies and the like. The further down I go in the feudal pyramid, the more confused I get. I feel there could be a better way to order
    • +100

      by Angbrennil
      on 2022-05-12 02:37
      This is something I struggle with. It is confusing to have multiple articles of the same name just for the work around.
    • +50

      by lliraeden
      on 2022-05-10 16:04
    • +300

      by Foxyowlet
      on 2022-05-10 06:43
    • +300

      by Ammypanda5
      on 2022-05-10 04:11
    • +300

      by illumiinae
      on 2022-05-10 00:51
    • +300

      by a7emenov
      on 2022-05-10 00:12
    • +300

      by morganarcher
      on 2022-05-09 17:33
    • +300

      by Carelle
      on 2022-05-09 16:41
    • +300

      by Nameseeker
      on 2022-05-09 07:58
    • +100

      by AutomaJohn
      on 2022-05-09 07:57
    • +300

      by LaneysCastle
      on 2022-05-09 07:27
    • +300

      by zunami
      on 2022-05-09 03:55
      I really hope to see something change with this. It is incredibly annoying that some articles allow linking to a country when relevant, but other types of articles do not, because the country isn't catalogued as a "place".
    • +300

      by pecawolf
      on 2022-05-08 17:47
    • +20

      by MisguidedSanity
      on 2022-05-08 14:56
    • +300

      by OcciDrake
      on 2022-05-08 09:27
    • +100

      by AegonTheUnlikely
      on 2022-05-07 20:19
    • +200

      by DarkAegyptiacus
      on 2022-05-07 20:15
    • +300

      by gnjcksn
      on 2022-05-07 17:16
    • +300

      by Vixen Windsong
      on 2022-05-07 15:49
    • +100

      by ATM82
      on 2022-05-07 15:17
    • +300

      by Sach2000
      on 2022-05-05 18:31
    • +300

      by darthkenobi2010
      on 2022-05-05 18:19
    • +300

      by Dunnxx
      on 2022-05-04 03:14
    • +300

      by 713Moose
      on 2022-05-03 19:55
    • +200

      by Lenosallose
      on 2022-05-03 09:09
    • +10

      by Willow H.R. Harper
      on 2022-05-02 18:19
    • +200

      by Rozial
      on 2022-05-02 01:25
    • +300

      by Arlatius
      on 2022-05-02 01:02
    • +300

      by Racussa
      on 2022-05-01 11:44
      I agree, that two aticles of the same name (one as organisation, one as location) is tricky to handle.
    • +300

      by theaaronw0
      on 2022-04-30 10:45
    • +300

      by Scalenex
      on 2022-04-30 07:19
      The down votes have said that countries and locations don't always overlap perfectly. While true, this wouldn't be perfect for all WA users, I still think implementing this suggestion would help many WA users.
    • -10

      by ddaniel
      on 2022-04-29 17:46
      I think you need to separate your country from its land in your head. There's Forest of A (geo) and Lake of B (geo), a country may control lake of B and half of Forest of A, so they control B and are contesting A. Country borders change with every conflict, but locations stay roughly the same (except big event thingies). Hope what I wrote was helpful, and sorry for the downvote, I just really like the current distinctions and don't want them changed ^^
    • +100

      by McGarder
      on 2022-04-29 17:26
    • +300

      by Ratha
      on 2022-04-29 11:55
    • -300

      by A Frightened Elf
      on 2022-04-29 04:54
      Countries are not places. Countries control places. See Ukraine right now and try to make sense of what is a country and what is not.
    • +300

      by CalebStrange
      on 2022-04-29 02:16
    • +50

      by A Goodhearted Goblin
      on 2022-04-29 01:56
    • -50

      by A Fierce Mimic
      on 2022-04-28 14:08
      I think it's fine the way it is tbh. "Country" is perhaps a slight misnomer, the country organisation is more a government. You can already create a list of members of the organisation, and otherwise mention it with hyperlinks. I don't think that this feature is necessary or of high priority.
    • +300

      by cool_beans
      on 2022-04-28 11:43